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re: Texas Athletic Department in debt?

Posted on 9/15/11 at 4:17 pm to
Posted by Smoke Ring
Scenic Highway Crackhouse
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/15/11 at 4:17 pm to
Drunkystain,

It's you that apparently don't understand debt.

For being dumb farmers, A&M arranged for debt that was interest free.

You guys have a debt service obligation on $225M+ ... yet you lecture ...

Long term, short term, it doesn't matter--only the interest terms matter. I think it was Einstein who said that compound interest was the most powerful force in the universe ...

So shut your trap and get back to work, your school has some interest on $225M to pay and needs your donation.
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
2918 posts
Posted on 9/15/11 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

Long term, short term, it doesn't matter--only the interest terms matter.


There are sound reasons for borrowing money. Borrowing to expand the stadium, which will eventually pay for itself many times over, makes sense. Suddenly taking money from the academic mission of a cash-strapped university (see the toilet paper issue Big Kat referenced) to cover reckless spending by an unqualified AD doesn't make sense.

I know these are tough times or you guys. By now, you had planned on celebrating your 2011 Conference Realignment National Championship.....until Baylor pulled out a Hail Mary late in the 4th Qtr. I know you are desperately searching for any kind of victory. It won't come by comparing checkbooks with Texas. Hang tight......basketball season isn't very far away.
Posted by Smoke Ring
Scenic Highway Crackhouse
Member since Dec 2010
4257 posts
Posted on 9/15/11 at 6:19 pm to
Drunkystain,

Lies work in Waco and Washington, DC.

A&M's loan was for infrastructure, too. We just didn't have to pay interest. Sorry your finance guys are so dumb.
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
2918 posts
Posted on 9/15/11 at 6:45 pm to
Again, the Texas "debt" was a well planned investment in substantial capital expenditures. A&M's loan was radically different:

https://www.theeagle.com/local/A-amp-amp-M-lent-athletics--16-million-

quote:

“Basically, it was provided to the athletic department to address some deficiencies we had, to bring it so that we thought we could be competitive,” said Terry Pankratz, chief financial officer and vice president for finance at A&M.


quote:

The line of credit had not been previously disclosed in the media, but was revealed Thursday in a self-critique of current A&M President Elsa Murano that was obtained by The Eagle through an open records request. “The athletics department has been operating in a deficit situation for several years,” Murano wrote, adding that no effort to improve that department’s finances had been included as a provision in the $16 million loan agreement between Gates and Byrne. “It is imperative that a business plan now be developed and implemented by athletics, to ensure that expenditures are kept in check and that strict adherence to the budget is realized,” she wrote.


quote:

Byrne said in his e-mail that the loan was designed to cover anticipated deficits from the 2004-05 to 2008-09 fiscal years, which means it was first used the year after Dennis Franchione’s 4-8 debut as the A&M football coach. Since then, major department expenditures have included a $300,000-a-year raise for Franchione after he led the team to the Cotton Bowl and a $4.4 million buyout when he was fired three years later.

Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5910 posts
Posted on 9/15/11 at 7:01 pm to
I said Baylor's politics could not keep us out the B12. Do you disagree Drunk? Because Slive just said that the SEC is making 13 team schedule for 2012
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
2918 posts
Posted on 9/15/11 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

I said Baylor's politics could not keep us out the B12. Do you disagree Drunk?


You specifically said Baylor wouldn't put up any obstacles. You said politics wouldn't be any issue. In my mea culpa thread, I admitted that I was wrong and Baylor wen't quietly into that good night.....and then Starr went apeshit.

I still think A&M will get to the SEC but you should own up to the truth.
Posted by CoonassatTEXAS
Austin, TX
Member since Nov 2005
1047 posts
Posted on 9/15/11 at 7:21 pm to
Lol some people don't seem to understand how captial expansions work
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
66133 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 5:20 pm to

BK, get your arse to the Help Board and fix the Avy and Sig
Posted by Smoke Ring
Scenic Highway Crackhouse
Member since Dec 2010
4257 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 5:25 pm to
lol at poors.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
66133 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 5:28 pm to

Light a letter, then fling poo
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