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Mizzou Recruiting: Decommits
Posted on 11/9/11 at 11:14 am
Posted on 11/9/11 at 11:14 am
Hey Mizzou fans had a quick question. I saw on one of our boards this morning that you have had two decommits this week from TX players. One being Simon Goines and I am unsure of the other but just read that there were two.
Would you guys say this is more because of the fact that they wanted to play in the Big 12 or because of the Missouri season not going as well as expected?
Personally, I wouldn't think it was the season results as most knew this would be a rebuilding year for Mizzou with breaking in a very young QB and all. It just seems to fast to me though to be jumping ship this quickly without a thought considering you are joining a better conference than the Big 12.
Would you guys say this is more because of the fact that they wanted to play in the Big 12 or because of the Missouri season not going as well as expected?
Personally, I wouldn't think it was the season results as most knew this would be a rebuilding year for Mizzou with breaking in a very young QB and all. It just seems to fast to me though to be jumping ship this quickly without a thought considering you are joining a better conference than the Big 12.
This post was edited on 11/9/11 at 11:17 am
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Posted on 11/9/11 at 11:20 am to TheCheshireHog
If a player is worried about Mommy not getting to see him play enough, and worried about playing in a tougher conference, you probably don't want him on your team.
Just saying....
If you're A&M's cross-rival, you play in Texas every other year, so it doesn't go away completely. So fill in the gaps left from Texas kids with kids from Florida and Georgia, where you'll play every other year. Arkansas gets the most flack for "losing Texas" when they went to the SEC, and they seem to be doing ok now.
Just saying....
If you're A&M's cross-rival, you play in Texas every other year, so it doesn't go away completely. So fill in the gaps left from Texas kids with kids from Florida and Georgia, where you'll play every other year. Arkansas gets the most flack for "losing Texas" when they went to the SEC, and they seem to be doing ok now.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 11:23 am to texasaggie08
Yeah I think Mizzou will do fine recruiting from Florida as well as still picking up a few from Texas. Wisconsin does a great job down there already so it proves those kids are willing to come north. There is more than enough athletes to go around once you get your name established.
I just thought it was absolutely crazy that kids would jump ship that quickly if it really is about the conference move.
I just thought it was absolutely crazy that kids would jump ship that quickly if it really is about the conference move.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 11:25 am to TheCheshireHog
Arky's pipeline was reduced when they bailed too.. Maybe it's recovered some but there are a ton of hog alumni in the DFW area so it's a different dynamic.
TX recruits going to some place like Mizzou or Nebraska still felt at "home" somewhat since there would be many trips back to TX over their career.
Interesting to see how this plays out with A&M.
And this is a very naive statement, talking about 18 year old kids leaving home for the first time.
TX recruits going to some place like Mizzou or Nebraska still felt at "home" somewhat since there would be many trips back to TX over their career.
Interesting to see how this plays out with A&M.
And this is a very naive statement, talking about 18 year old kids leaving home for the first time.
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If a player is worried about Mommy not getting to see him play enough, and worried about playing in a tougher conference, you probably don't want him on your team.
This post was edited on 11/9/11 at 11:27 am
Posted on 11/9/11 at 11:25 am to TheCheshireHog
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I am unsure of the other
Germain Ifedi - Committed to Texas A&M.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 11:29 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Interesting. So it definitely wasn't the SEC itself with him but that he wanted to play in Texas. Was he already rumored to flip to A&M or did this happen suddenly?
Posted on 11/9/11 at 11:36 am to TejasHorn
Why would it affect A&M?
For a kid from Houston or East Texas, LSU is as close as Lubbock. We lose Baylor/UT trips, so ONE "close" road a game a year is lost.
We have SMU on the schedule for the next 3 seasons (2 of which are road games that will be played in Dallas or possibly a neutral site in Texas). We have Arkansas in Dallas, and even if that goes home and home we'll likely pick up a game with an OOC team in either Dallas or Houston.
Doesn't matter if it is with a current Big 12 team or not.
There are plenty of valid points you can make about A&M's move to the SEC and possible negative ramifications, but the myth about us "leaving Texas" is complete horseshite. Try selling it to recruits, even 18 year old kids know better.
For a kid from Houston or East Texas, LSU is as close as Lubbock. We lose Baylor/UT trips, so ONE "close" road a game a year is lost.
We have SMU on the schedule for the next 3 seasons (2 of which are road games that will be played in Dallas or possibly a neutral site in Texas). We have Arkansas in Dallas, and even if that goes home and home we'll likely pick up a game with an OOC team in either Dallas or Houston.
Doesn't matter if it is with a current Big 12 team or not.
There are plenty of valid points you can make about A&M's move to the SEC and possible negative ramifications, but the myth about us "leaving Texas" is complete horseshite. Try selling it to recruits, even 18 year old kids know better.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 11:41 am to texasaggie08
I don't think recruiting impact for A&M will be as bad as UT fans say or as great as aggies say.
It will just be interesting to watch. Regardless of what Sherm does from here on, I believe the program needs to head in a new direction or else A&M football is in for several very tough years to start in the SEC... recruiting and otherwise.
It will just be interesting to watch. Regardless of what Sherm does from here on, I believe the program needs to head in a new direction or else A&M football is in for several very tough years to start in the SEC... recruiting and otherwise.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 11:47 am to texasaggie08
We have had one decommit:
GERMAIN IFEDI 6'5" 305 OL Westside HS, Houston, TX
From my understanding thit wasnt because of the SEC move. aTm had not offered the young man and that was always his first choice. aTm hadnt offered him so he chose Mizzou. aTm recently became very interested and offered him and after consulting with Mizzou he decommited and then commited to aTm. Cant fault the young man if thats where he always wanted to play.
There are two other players who have said they were opening recruitment again BUT Mizzou was still either their top choice or in their top 3. One is from Texas and one is from Missouri.
You can not fault these young men for taking a step back and analyzing the situation after a substantial change like this move to the SEC.
GERMAIN IFEDI 6'5" 305 OL Westside HS, Houston, TX
From my understanding thit wasnt because of the SEC move. aTm had not offered the young man and that was always his first choice. aTm hadnt offered him so he chose Mizzou. aTm recently became very interested and offered him and after consulting with Mizzou he decommited and then commited to aTm. Cant fault the young man if thats where he always wanted to play.
There are two other players who have said they were opening recruitment again BUT Mizzou was still either their top choice or in their top 3. One is from Texas and one is from Missouri.
You can not fault these young men for taking a step back and analyzing the situation after a substantial change like this move to the SEC.
This post was edited on 11/9/11 at 11:51 am
Posted on 11/9/11 at 11:48 am to TejasHorn
Agree. Our head coach will determine our fate, rather we are in the Big 12, SEC, or Mountain West. We'll get a boost in recruiting, but it will be minimal if we continue on the track that we are on. With the right coach, it could be significant.
I think we willingly ease up on DFW, and increase focus on East Texas and Houston.
As an example, lets take Lufkin, TX. Remove Baylor (160 miles) and Texas (230 miles) which we all know are closer road trips than any that we will have in the SEC (so 1/season).
The next 3 closest current Big 12 road trips for a Lufkin kids family would be:
Norman-360 miles
Stillwater-440 miles
Lubbock-515 miles
The 4 closest SEC trips would be:
Baton Rouge-280 miles
Fayetteville-393 miles
Starkville-460 miles
Oxford-500 miles
It is basically a wash. Yes, the kid from DFW's family would have more convenient road trips if he chooses to go to a Big 12 school. But for the other two prime areas in Texas (Houston/East Texas), it is not a factor at all.
I think we willingly ease up on DFW, and increase focus on East Texas and Houston.
As an example, lets take Lufkin, TX. Remove Baylor (160 miles) and Texas (230 miles) which we all know are closer road trips than any that we will have in the SEC (so 1/season).
The next 3 closest current Big 12 road trips for a Lufkin kids family would be:
Norman-360 miles
Stillwater-440 miles
Lubbock-515 miles
The 4 closest SEC trips would be:
Baton Rouge-280 miles
Fayetteville-393 miles
Starkville-460 miles
Oxford-500 miles
It is basically a wash. Yes, the kid from DFW's family would have more convenient road trips if he chooses to go to a Big 12 school. But for the other two prime areas in Texas (Houston/East Texas), it is not a factor at all.
This post was edited on 11/9/11 at 11:52 am
Posted on 11/9/11 at 11:54 am to texasaggie08
I doubt kids will be pulling out the Rand McNally mileage charts, texasaggie. But point taken.
I do think losing the Texas series harms A&M recruiting more than it does Texas. FWIW.
Hey, I'll be a casual A&M fan in the SEC eventually. It's still Texas vs. the world. We can agree on that.
I do think losing the Texas series harms A&M recruiting more than it does Texas. FWIW.
Hey, I'll be a casual A&M fan in the SEC eventually. It's still Texas vs. the world. We can agree on that.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 11:56 am to TejasHorn
quote:
I doubt kids will be pulling out the Rand McNally mileage charts
Ah, but those recruiters will
Posted on 11/9/11 at 11:57 am to texasaggie08
Well, 4* RB Johnathan Williams just decommited and now lists Arkansas as his top school.
This seems to have more to do with Henry Josey being in the top 5 nationally in rushing and only being a SO then anything else. With Josey being only a SO playing time will be sparse for him moving into the next two years.
This seems to have more to do with Henry Josey being in the top 5 nationally in rushing and only being a SO then anything else. With Josey being only a SO playing time will be sparse for him moving into the next two years.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 11:58 am to TheCheshireHog
quote:Aaron Curry a 3 star DT from Keller Texas.
One being Simon Goines and I am unsure of the other but just read that there were two.
Goines and Curry left this week after the announcement.
A 3rd Texas recruit Geramine Ifedi Decommitted not long after the announcement was released accidentally a week or so ago and commited to Texas A&M.
It's also been rumored since the announcement that Jonathon Williams a 4 star RB from Allen Texas is wavering on his commitment now. Evan Boehm a 4 star OL from Lee Summit Mo. has decommitted but since heard he's angry about the rumors and says they aren't true. In the case of Boehm it would be because he is from KC.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:03 pm to kilo
quote:The one from Missouri being Evan Boehm? If so from what I've heard and read he is still solid verbal and is angry about Internet rumors he has decommitted. I don't know for sure it's just what I've read.
One is from Texas and one is from Missouri.
This post was edited on 11/9/11 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:03 pm to kilo
[Quote]We have had one decommit:[/quote]
According to Rivals, Simon Goines has decommitted as well. I'm on my phone and can't link it but you can go to his profile and he is no longer listed as committed to Mizzou.
I'm guessing the other two you are talking about are Johnathan Williams (TX) and Evan Boehm (MO), correct?
According to Rivals, Simon Goines has decommitted as well. I'm on my phone and can't link it but you can go to his profile and he is no longer listed as committed to Mizzou.
I'm guessing the other two you are talking about are Johnathan Williams (TX) and Evan Boehm (MO), correct?
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:03 pm to TejasHorn
Fair enough
As to losing the Texas game, and its impact on us both.....if a kid is coming to A&M and lists that game as one of his prime reasons, it is likely because he grew up liking A&M and hating UT. Same applies to the UT commit who grew up hating A&M.
That kid isn't going to turn away from A&M just because the game is (temporarily) discontinued....Especially if we begin to play LSU on TG weekend which has been widely speculated upon.
I don't think UT gains anything by playing Tech on Thanksgiving, other than "sticking it to A&M". Say what you want about A&Ms UT obsession (it is true for some Aggies), but we won't be looking longingly at UT playing Tech in Lubbock on TG while were playing LSU.
As to losing the Texas game, and its impact on us both.....if a kid is coming to A&M and lists that game as one of his prime reasons, it is likely because he grew up liking A&M and hating UT. Same applies to the UT commit who grew up hating A&M.
That kid isn't going to turn away from A&M just because the game is (temporarily) discontinued....Especially if we begin to play LSU on TG weekend which has been widely speculated upon.
I don't think UT gains anything by playing Tech on Thanksgiving, other than "sticking it to A&M". Say what you want about A&Ms UT obsession (it is true for some Aggies), but we won't be looking longingly at UT playing Tech in Lubbock on TG while were playing LSU.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:03 pm to sfury
quote:
It's also been rumored since the announcement that Jonathon Williams a 4 star RB from Allen Texas is wavering on his commitment now.
He is decomitted at this point listing Arkasas as his top school.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:07 pm to TheCheshireHog
quote:
According to Rivals, Simon Goines has decommitted as well. I'm on my phone and can't link it but you can go to his profile and he is no longer listed as committed to Mizzou.
I'm guessing the other two you are talking about are Johnathan Williams (TX) and Evan Boehm (MO), correct?
Yes. It appears Williams has already decommited. Boehm is the Missouri kid.
Ifedi and Williams dont appear to be "SEC" related. The Boehm wavering apparently is SEC related.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:07 pm to kilo
quote:Yeah I saw that after I posted. Thanks for the info. I can understand him not wanting to sit behind Henry Josey.
He is decomitted at this point listing Arkasas as his top school.
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