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Whats up in Miami??? Any new names coming up?
Posted on 12/5/10 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 12/5/10 at 10:33 pm
First John Gruden, then Dan Mullen, I wonder who will be the next IT candidate for the Miami job?
I may be crazy, but I think a NFL guy would be a GREAT FIT at the U.
I may be crazy, but I think a NFL guy would be a GREAT FIT at the U.
Posted on 12/5/10 at 10:39 pm to 601dawg
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but I think a NFL guy would be a GREAT FIT at the U.
Too bad they can't pay.
Posted on 12/5/10 at 10:43 pm to Woopigsooie20
jimmy johnson is goin back to da U
Posted on 12/5/10 at 10:46 pm to BDtiger5
the U just isnt a very good job these days. im sure the rumors will swirl around tommy tuberville before its all over...
Posted on 12/5/10 at 10:50 pm to Angry LLAMA
Mike Leach has definitely been talking to Miami
Posted on 12/5/10 at 10:54 pm to SG_Geaux
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Mike Leach has definitely been talking to Miam
I would like to see that. I always enjoyed watching his offenses at TT. That offense with Miami athletes could be awesome
Posted on 12/5/10 at 10:56 pm to RLDSC FAN
quote:might be a little too scary...
hat offense with Miami athletes could be awesome
Posted on 12/6/10 at 7:00 am to 601dawg
Brad Childress is a name that's popping up.
Posted on 12/6/10 at 9:40 am to Angry LLAMA
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the U just isnt a very good job these days.
Why do people keep saying this. Just because a program isn't winning a championship, doesn't make it not a good job. Was the Alabama job a bad job before Saban took it? Was the Florida job a bad job before Meyer took it? Was tOSU a bad job before Tressel took it? etc., etc., No!
Miami was ranked in the top 25 this year, will always have plenty of publicity, is in a great state to recruit, has a lot of NFL talent that loves the program and is in a great location. The only down side is the AD and the facilities. However those facilities are the same ones that those NFL stars work out on in the summer.
Posted on 12/6/10 at 9:55 am to Suntiger
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Why do people keep saying this. Just because a program isn't winning a championship, doesn't make it not a good job
It is a sucky job because of the piss poor facilities and the fact that their 70,000+ seat stadium only draws about 27,000 per game...
To the OP..
Mullen
Bo Pelini
Tommy Tuberville
Jim Harbaugh and Randy Edsall have all caught the U's eye apparently....
Coaching Candidates
Posted on 12/6/10 at 9:57 am to Suntiger
quote:the reason is money. they dont have a stadium they fill up to make money. for all the NFLers they have, they dont have a large alumni base which to collect donations from. they tend to be fair-weather fans. add all this to shitty facilities and its not in the same area code as a bama, tOSU, or florida. randy shannon was paid like $1.35M/yr. thats fricking terrible. houston nutt makes $2.5M/yrquote:Why do people keep saying this. Just because a program isn't winning a championship, doesn't make it not a good job. Was the Alabama job a bad job before Saban took it? Was the Florida job a bad job before Meyer took it? Was tOSU a bad job before Tressel took it? etc., etc., No!
the U just isnt a very good job these days.
quote:i keep hearing the U is back! and then they go get humiliated on national television. a top 25 ranking is a byproduct of their hype and how bad everyone wants them to be good, but alas, they are a 7-5 team
Miami was ranked in the top 25 this year,
if its such a good job, why arent good coaches leaving average jobs to go there? b/c they know its only an average job as well
Posted on 12/6/10 at 9:57 am to MikeTheTiger2893
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Why do people keep saying this. Just because a program isn't winning a championship, doesn't make it not a good job. Was the Alabama job a bad job before Saban took it? Was the Florida job a bad job before Meyer took it? Was tOSU a bad job before Tressel took it? etc., etc., No!
I think the fact they can't attract a big time coach shows that they are not where you perceive them to be. I think the potential is there but there is something there that we don't see. The "U" can't get Mississippi State's head coach away????? In the famous words of Chris Carter, "Com'on MAN!!!!!"
Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:02 am to Angry LLAMA
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the reason is money. they dont have a stadium they fill up to make money.
Notre Dame has more money than anyone, but Miami is better than they are. They may have fair weather fans, but if you win ESPN and fans will be all over Miami. Winning cures all and a good coach can win in Miami.
Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:14 am to Suntiger
quote:ND is a completely different and isolated example. they are the anomaly. very tough grade restrictions, lack of natural recruiting ground, and over inflated sense of importance to current college football all kill ND's high end potential.
Notre Dame has more money than anyone, but Miami is better than they are
the bottom line is this: miami dont have the money to pay a big time coach to go there. why? b/c lack of alumni base and revenue(see: stadium).
quote:i agree, but they arent pulling chucky out of the MNF booth with $1M/yr. its simply not the glamour job it was in the 80s-90s
a good coach can win in Miami
This post was edited on 12/6/10 at 10:16 am
Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:44 am to Angry LLAMA
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its simply not the glamour job it was in the 80s-90s
So it's only a glamour job when the program is doing well? If that's the case, then no job is a glamour job when a coach is fired. Butch Davis didn't take a non-glamour job and make it good again. He just took a the position and did a good job. You can win a National Championship at Miami. That makes it a good job. Just for perspective, places like Baylor, Texas Tech, Indiana, Vanderbilt, ArKansas, Northwestern, Iowa State and Kentucky are not glamour jobs.
Some programs will get the pub and are set up to succeed no matter what their records are. Nebraska, bama, Miami, Michigan, tOSU, Florida State and Notre Dame are some of these programs. The ACC was created for Miami and Flordia State to be on top of their divisions. They will always be overrated, which isn't a bad thing for perception purposes. They have history. I agree that they don't have money coming in hand over fist, their facilities aren't the best and I don't like their AD. But if you can recruit worth a damn, you can be a good ACC team by just keeping talent from South Florida at home.
Posted on 12/6/10 at 11:05 am to Suntiger
quote:you dont fricking listen, son. if its as great as you think, why arent coaches lining up around the corner to coach there?
Suntiger
quote:i absolutely agree
You can win a National Championship at Miami.
quote:its not a marquee job
That makes it a good job
quote:you can say this at any program in the ACC- hell- at any BCS school. see: stanford
ut if you can recruit worth a damn, you can be a good ACC team
Posted on 12/6/10 at 11:38 am to Angry LLAMA
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if its as great as you think, why arent coaches lining up around the corner to coach there?
Leach is practically beating down their door. Gruden is an NFL coach and isn't going to coach in college. Who else turned them down? The jobs only been vacant for a week! Coaches with current jobs aren't goint to say, "Oh yeah, I want that job!" It hurts their recruiting and the fans usually don't like that.
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That makes it a good job
its not a marquee job
Originally you said
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the U just isnt a very good job these days.
Are you at least willing to admit that it's a good job now? It may not be like taking over after Butch left Miami, Saban left LSU or Spurrier left Florida, but those type of jobs don't come along very often. A coach is fired when the program isn't winning. This is similar to Meyer taking over Florida, Saban taking over bama or Pelini taking over Nebraska. The job has more potential than most.
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ut if you can recruit worth a damn, you can be a good ACC team
you can say this at any program in the ACC- hell- at any BCS school. see: stanford
Not the SEC
IMO, the ACC is a solid conference, but doesn't have that top tier team, mostly because Miami and Florida State were supposed to be those teams. The ACC reminds me of the SEC in the 90's with all the teams just beating up on each other. Miami and FSU have the Florida, UGA, bama, LSU potential to come out of the ACC as a National Power. Again, you can't do that at Wake Forest, Virgina, Cincinnati, Southern Miss or Purdue.
Posted on 12/6/10 at 12:03 pm to Suntiger
quote:heres the problem with miami- even if you win a championship THEY DO NOT HAVE THE FUNDS TO PAY YOU IN THE ELITE CLASS with nick sabans, jim tressells, and mack browns. by definition, the lack of financial power hurts the overall quality of the job.
Are you at least willing to admit that it's a good job now?
quote:i will rephrase: the U just isnt as good a job as it used to be.
the U just isnt a very good job these days.
quote:again- you keep including the U with other marquee jobs. its not a state school with money and rabid fans and big donors. they arent on the level. theres good things about the job: namely fertile recruiting soil, but thats about it.
This is similar to Meyer taking over Florida, Saban taking over bama or Pelini taking over Nebraska. The job has more potential than most.
FSU, v-tech, even clemson are better jobs in his own conference- a basketball conference.
Posted on 12/6/10 at 1:07 pm to Aubie83
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piss poor facilities
They say they have the money to improve to a coaches liking. Like LSU did after hiring Saban.
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their 70,000+ seat stadium only draws about 27,000 per game...
That happens when you are losing and have lots of comp. The right coach will pack it out, easy.
Leach will get the job and turn it around. Watch and see. Plenty of equipment sheds to put pussy arse kids like Craig James son in.
Posted on 12/6/10 at 1:09 pm to Ray Ray Rodman
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Plenty of equipment sheds to put pussy arse kids like Craig James son in.
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