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re: A Tulsa fan's perspective on Steve Kragthorpe (GOOD Hire)

Posted on 1/20/11 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
18342 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 2:53 pm to
Yeah it did a bit. The amount of games where we had less than 300 yards total offense this year is completely embarrassing
Posted by Chinaski
Mandeville
Member since Jan 2007
591 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 2:53 pm to
Havent seen anyone comment on whether or not he called his own plays at Tulsa and Louisville. Although I'm sure he had a huge influence over the offensive philosophy, if he wasnt calling his own plays then the rankings arent really indicative of his capability.

I remember watching A&M play when he was there. Roughly 60-40 run to pass.

Most impt takeaways are:
- He and Miles clearly agree with the offensive direction, so our O shouldnt look so out of sync.
- He has a reputation for developing QBs, which is the opposite of Crowton.
- He is another recruiter for the staff, again the opposite of Crowton.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10455 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

Half of the top offenses are shitty teams that are on offense a lot
I think I counted 9 of the top 20, and 18 of 50 in Total O are non-AQ. Rantards dwell on this a bit much.
Top 3 of SEC is a better bellweather.
Posted by BTRDD
Member since Jun 2009
3941 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 3:17 pm to
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1998 Texas A&M OC #91
1999 Texas A&M OC #58
2000 Texas A&M OC #49
2003 Tulsa HC #51
2004 Tulsa HC #73
2005 Tulsa HC #39
2006 Tulsa HC #24
2007 Louisville HC #6
2008 Louisville HC #45
2009 Louisville HC #91


I think you need to consider what level of players he was coaching. For instance, LSU has had top 10 talent on offense, and where have we been ranked the last three years?
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
18342 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 3:26 pm to
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I think you need to consider what level of players he was coaching. For instance, LSU has had top 10 talent on offense, and where have we been ranked the last three years?


Sure, of course that is taken into consideration. But you have to account for the weaker defenses and easier game planning he had as well.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 3:35 pm to
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....theirs probably not a single OC in the SEC that wouldnt thrive in the conference USA after a year or two.


yes "their" is. conference usa and the sec are entirely different conferences with entirely different talent levels.
Posted by Hotlanta Tigerbot
Atlanta GA
Member since Oct 2010
1091 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 4:20 pm to
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Thank you Mrs Kragthorpe


GD ! I'm

Too funny!
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 4:44 pm to
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If he can get us into the 30's like he's shown he can do, then LSU will be very tough to beat. These numbers just don't impress me very much, but I do like how he seems to improve the longer he is at somewhere. Problem is we need him to improve the offense dramatically in year one. Guess we'll see.



He's never had the talent LSU will provide him with. I'm sure he's thrilled to be on board at LSU.
Posted by dinosaur
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
1156 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 5:18 pm to
And no triple digits in any of those years.
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