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How many of y’all have read The Gulag Archipelago?

Posted on 4/1/19 at 3:43 pm
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 3:43 pm
By Solzhenitsyn?

Jordan Peterson always talks about this book and how it helped shape how he viewed post-modernism. I’m about to pick it up. However, I was only able to get the abridged version which is still a very long read.

What’s the Book Board’s thoughts on the book?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92584 posts
Posted on 4/2/19 at 7:04 am to
:raiseshand:

It's long, baw, like George R.R. Martin. Russians are long-winded.
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:16 am to
You don't have it in you to be truthful. So I would skip it since you are just a jordan peterson lackey.



The Gulag Archipelago and The Wisdom of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - Academy of Ideas youtube
This post was edited on 4/2/19 at 9:17 am
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:29 am to
Wtf are you talking about?
Posted by Loubacca
sittin on the dock of the bay
Member since Feb 2005
4101 posts
Posted on 4/2/19 at 12:35 pm to
I've read it and it is a long read. It was insane the lengths that they would go to in order to torture people in the gulags. I think the controversy with the book is in who instituted the camp system, Lenin or Stalin. IMO, that's not as important as the book exposing the imprisonment of millions of people who were systematically tortured and killed for pretty much any reason they found convenient. It's crazy that the US was allied with the Soviet government against the Axis powers and the Soviets were committing the same atrocious acts that justified our going to war to defeat Hitler.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 4/2/19 at 12:42 pm to
Well for one we had a Communist sympathizer in the White House at the time.

Furthermore, I’m not entirely sure exactly how much of this we knew was going on as our intelligence system wasn’t a fraction of what it became after the war. But it is pretty fricking hard to hide hundreds of thousands to millions of bodies. Even with an iron curtain. Hell, Stalin purged over 30,000 officers before the war started.
Posted by ElroyJetSon
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
4018 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:36 am to
Should be required reading
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:41 am to
The only reason peterson talks about that book is because people kept bringing it up to him to see if he would actually talk about the real problem and he won't. He's good at subverting the potential nationalists into remaining individuals instead of collectivizing to defeat the globalist threat.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 9:48 am
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

The only reason peterson talks about that book is because people kept bringing it up to him to see if he would actually talk about the real problem and he won't. He's good at subverting the potential nationalists into remaining individuals instead of collectivizing to defeat the globalist threat.


Dude, he’s been studying the Cold War since his college days. What would you say the real problem is?
Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
6117 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:45 pm to
I read both volumes.
It should be required reading in the freshman year of college (or earlier).
It won’t be, because Americans are too stupid.
Once unbridled sadism is let loose by these red, fascist states, any culture (including ours) will have people ready to apply the hobnail boot or crank the electric shock generator. The only thing between you and them right now is the 2nd Amendment.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 10:46 pm
Posted by zeebo
Hammond
Member since Jan 2008
5353 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 11:30 am to
Long read but it drives home the point that power is corrupting and governments kill more of their own people than foreign wars do.

You will also learn what the hidden brand is, and you will never forget it.
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
6074 posts
Posted on 4/6/19 at 11:42 pm to
Read both volumes of Gulag.

I'd suggest also his
One Day In The Life of Ivan Denisovich.

Arthur Koestler's Darkness At Noon

Armondo Valladares' Against All Hope

If young students had been exposed to these authors and works we'd see way less enthusiasm for socialism/progressivism than what's currently fashionable.

Problem is the real communists have no problem using the ignorant and ill informed like AOC, her admirers, and other helpful idiots to propel them to power and then jettisoning them and their noble ideals, sending them with the rest of us to the gulags.
Posted by just1dawg
Virginia
Member since Dec 2011
1492 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 8:21 pm to
Nothing wrong with reading the abridged version. You will come away understanding the horrors of the gulag system and overly powerful governments without having to read the unabridged version.

I highly recommend it.
This post was edited on 4/13/19 at 8:22 pm
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