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Posted on 11/29/20 at 6:14 pm to Sneaky__Sally
Sally, all of the definitions you just linked however involve either the term reading (something that is happening), in which one person/thing is doing the reading, and everyone else is just listening (or reading the reading in the case of the computer or the measuring devices), or the verb read, where someone is either reading directly or using visual clues to make a determination. To read something in and of itself in those definitions involves using your eyes to look at a book (or fingers in the case of the blind) or study a person.
In the end, a person who is completely illiterate and incapable of reading at all can still listen to an audiobook, which to me nullifies it as a form of reading.
Reading a play is completely different from hearing it performed. The same goes for hearing a poem read aloud. I'd say hearing it would arguably be the superior way to experience it, but you yourself aren't reading it.
We are all being wonderfully pedantic here I suppose.
In the end, a person who is completely illiterate and incapable of reading at all can still listen to an audiobook, which to me nullifies it as a form of reading.
Reading a play is completely different from hearing it performed. The same goes for hearing a poem read aloud. I'd say hearing it would arguably be the superior way to experience it, but you yourself aren't reading it.
We are all being wonderfully pedantic here I suppose.

This post was edited on 11/29/20 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:24 pm to auyushu
Listening to audiobooks may not be reading but it is “consuming literature.” And to those of us that read more than an hour a day but less than 50 books a year, we’re listening-or whatever you want to call it- to the narrator in our heads.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:41 pm to Charter Embers
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Listening to audiobooks may not be reading but it is “consuming literature.”
Without a doubt, as I said in one of my previous posts in this thread, it's a fine way to consume/interact with books. I don't listen to them myself, but it's more of a me problem. The narration is too slow for me compared to my reading speed, so I wind up tuning them out. I'm not ADHD, but I might as well be when it comes to audiobooks. I can definitely see the appeal for anyone who travels a lot for work or has a long commute.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 8:00 am to auyushu
My main one was the "understand or interpret the nature or significance of" that I felt could be applied to a person listening to an audiobook if they so choose.
You also have computers which read in audio inputs and since we are all just advanced AI running in a simulation - seems like we can read audio.
(My main goal was to get to utterly technical it sort of ruined that discussion and ended the audiobook reading argument).
You also have computers which read in audio inputs and since we are all just advanced AI running in a simulation - seems like we can read audio.
(My main goal was to get to utterly technical it sort of ruined that discussion and ended the audiobook reading argument).
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 8:01 am
Posted on 11/30/20 at 9:38 am to Sneaky__Sally
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I felt could be applied to a person listening to an audiobook if they so choose.
That’s the thing. Listening is not reading.
I’m not saying one is better then the other, just they aren’t the same.
Again, I’ll use the podcast example. I had an episode of knifepoint horror on during my drive to work. By your definition I was “reading”. I argue that could not be more wrong.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:51 am to memphis tiger
Well your various voice command programs are reading audio inputs and interpreting them so I'd argue that if a person is hearing and interpreting audio inputs - it can be called reading in a technical manner based on one of the many ways that word is used in practice.
ETA: we have also come to a clear impasse in the discussion and can probably move on at this point.
ETA: we have also come to a clear impasse in the discussion and can probably move on at this point.
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 11:55 am
Posted on 12/2/20 at 8:13 pm to DeeBz
Physical books most, but I travel with kindle, and tidy the house to mysteries on Audible
Posted on 12/4/20 at 12:53 am to boxcarbarney
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Physical book. I stare at a computer screen 8+ hours a day. I don't want to do that during my down time.
Same.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:13 pm to A Menace to Sobriety
I read during breaks at work. I didn't think I would but I like my Kindle. Much easier than hauling physical books around at work.
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