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re: Why Are You Against Abortion?

Posted on 4/30/14 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 12:18 pm to
I'm not religious and I'm against it because it has become a form of birth control used by inconvenienced women to terminate a future human life. You dont need to believe all the nonsense about developing infants having souls and God weeping for them to be against what amounts to perpetuating irresponsibility and selfishness in most cases.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 12:20 pm to
At a certain point, i.e., viability, how can anyone NOT be against abortion?

These late term abortions are sick.
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
7628 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

Roger Klarvin Why Are You Against Abortion? I'm not religious and I'm against it because it has become a form of birth control used by inconvenienced women to terminate a future human life. You dont need to believe all the nonsense about developing infants having souls and God weeping for them to be against what amounts to perpetuating irresponsibility and selfishness in most cases.



All of this right here.

Why is it that people cannot take responsibility for thier actions. If you can't afford a child use birth control or keep your pants on. That includes women and men. You talk about woman's choice, well that is a choice and she chose wrong. So don't punish an innocent child for your stupidity.

When do we draw the line? I mean hell O drove my mom crazy the first year with health problems and damn near ran them broke. Should they have killed me and threw me in the trash because I was a burden? It would have been no different than an abortion.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 12:29 pm to
I am not against a woman's right to choose to have an abortion. But I agree there has to be a time limit.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 12:29 pm to
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Why Are You Against Abortion?



I might change my stance knowing it would have eliminated your trolling post....

Better question is why is it available? The abortion is the unnatural part, so why be for it?
Posted by asurob1
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Member since May 2009
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 12:43 pm to
All the same old tired arguments.

How fortunate we live in a country, where a group of men don't get to choose what a woman does with her own body.
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
7156 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 12:50 pm to
Having an abortion ends a human life and leaves emotional scaring on the woman who chooses to have an abortion. It seems barbaric and honestly the denial that a human life has been ended strikes me as anti science.

I know women who've had an abortion and not one of them says they would make the same choice if they could do it all over again. Not one said they are happy with the decision.
I don't know a mom that wishes she would have aborted her child. I'm sure there is such a woman out there just as I am sure there are women who are happy about having an abortion but I feel pretty fortunate to have never met one of them.
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
8185 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 1:13 pm to
Because the unborn child is a human life that has the right to life every bit as much as you and me. As you cannot murder a baby out of the womb, the baby inside the womb should be afforded the same rights. If the parent does not want a child, then don't do the actions that result in one. Parents than commit abortion should be tried and convicted of murder.
Posted by DR Hops
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2014
301 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 1:20 pm to
Again, to the dullards on the left, it has nothing to do with women's choice. Just look at the responses. The only people bringing up women's choice is you.

Be honest for a change, and admit that the reason people are against abortion is because it's about murder of a baby.

It's telling you justify murder as a "choice". Clear sign that you can't argue what the anti-abortion people are saying.

Basically, you are pulling a Rex in this thread.
This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 1:21 pm
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
8185 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 1:26 pm to
Was your post meant for me or were you just responding to the last person in the thread? If it was meant for me, I couldn't figure out how.
Posted by asurob1
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Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 1:38 pm to
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Again, to the dullards on the left, it has nothing to do with women's choice. Just look at the responses. The only people bringing up women's choice is you.

Be honest for a change, and admit that the reason people are against abortion is because it's about murder of a baby.

It's telling you justify murder as a "choice". Clear sign that you can't argue what the anti-abortion people are saying.

Basically, you are pulling a Rex in this thread.


I know this will be difficult for you to understand.

It is not murder.

It is not a baby.

So when you start your debate with either of those two things.

You have already lost.
Posted by dinosaur
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
1090 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 1:42 pm to
It isn't just "her body". Abortion is killing a living thing. The argument that the child can't live, at first, outside of her body is just avoiding the main issue. A newborn can't really live on its own without parental help. Is it then OK to kill a newborn as a "woman's choice"? A woman who doesn't want the burden of a child can kill it? Where would you draw the line?

And, in choosing to have sex, she made the choice of what she would do with her body. The woman's choice idea is just avoiding the consequences of that decision.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
18955 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 1:44 pm to
Because killing is wrong.

I won't claim to know for a fact that early term abortion is killing human life, but nobody has, and probably ever will be able to completely prove to me that it isn't. And anyone here who claims that they know for a fact that it ISN'T human life is completely full of shite.

If abortion is criminalized, and the anti-abortion folks are wrong, then more kids are born.

If we continue with the status quo, and the pro-abortion folks are wrong, then innocent babies are dying.

The consequences of the pro-abortion folks being wrong outweigh that of the anti-abortion folks by a landslide.

I think it's best we err on the side of caution.
This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 1:45 pm
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
18955 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 1:47 pm to
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It is not a baby.

There is no proof that it isn't human life. If you claim to know the precise moment human life begins, and that moment isn't conception, then you are completely full of shite.

Posted by asurob1
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Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 1:48 pm to
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The woman's choice idea is just avoiding the consequences of that decision.


ah yes, the consequences argument.


So by all means we should punish her for being raped.

Or you know punish her for having the shite beat out of her by her husband/boyfriend who then knocks her up tying her to him forever.

Good argument...go with that one.

Posted by asurob1
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Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

babies are dying.


a fetus...is not a baby.

Your argument dies at this point.


quote:

I think it's best we err on the side of caution.


Of course you do. You're not the one being forced to risk her life giving birth.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 1:51 pm to
Where do they come up with such bs phrases as unborn? Right out of the zombies undead?
Posted by dinosaur
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
1090 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 1:54 pm to
You can't win a moral argument by changing the meaning of the terms. If it is not a baby, at what point does that status change? Birth? Six weeks? When some scientist decides life begins? A detectable heart beat?

This isn't a forum where it is likely that your views will suddenly be changed. Abortion is either morally wrong or it has some sort of justification. To me, it is about as wrong it you can get.

To me, if there is any doubt at all about life, you don't kill the child.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 1:54 pm to
Thats the point it's not a child
Posted by dinosaur
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
1090 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 1:57 pm to
You justify your bogus argument with extreme situations. So you conclude that all abortions are about rape and/or forced sex? And to those the answer is that the child didn't rape anyone. Make the rapist pay for the evil actions, not the innocent child.
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