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re: Why Are You Against Abortion?

Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:05 am to
Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
5805 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:05 am to
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I believe it propagates bad decision making and terminates an innocent human life.

I also recognize the latter is more of a religious reason and don't want my religious beliefs put into legislation.


Why is the latter a more religious reason? I think it is pretty scientific. Blastocysts don't have a beating heart.
Posted by DR Hops
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2014
301 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:09 am to
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I am for a woman's right to choose


Wait, first your argument for abortion, you inferred that it was a cheap way to solve the welfare problem. That is failing on you, so now it's "woman's choice". That's like screaming racist at someone. It's a nonsensical desperate attempt to try and use a "safe" argument that. Because the fact of the matter, is that opposition to abortion has zero to do with choice, and all to do with murder of a baby.

So let's see what other fall backs you can rely on. Racism? Ageism?
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20389 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:10 am to
your reading comprehension is terrible Dr
Posted by DR Hops
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2014
301 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:11 am to
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you mean hell fire and brimstone, gtfo with that shite


I mean criminal punishment.

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Christianity has killed so many people throughout history its a complete joke for Christians to take this moral high ground


Who? Who have I, as a Christian white male, killed? What in the teachings of Jesus, advocate killing?

Man has killed people in the name of many things, religion being one. It is man who is at fault, not their misguided interpretations of Religion.
Talk about deflection.
This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 11:12 am
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20389 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:12 am to
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Who? Who have I, as a Christian white male, killed? What in the teachings of Jesus, advocate killing?

Man has killed people in the name of many things, religion being one. It is man who is at fault, not their misguided interpretations of Religion.
Talk about deflection.

Have you heard about the Crusades? and last time I checked abortion was legal
This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 11:14 am
Posted by DR Hops
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2014
301 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:13 am to
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your reading comprehension is terrible Dr


Why, because it negates your "woman's choice" bullshite argument? It has nothing to do with woman choice and you know it. Woman's choice is just as nonsensical as throwing out racism simply because someone disagrees with you and may have a point. Try to stay substantive on the issue.
Posted by DR Hops
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2014
301 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:14 am to
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Have you heard about the Crusades?


Again, where in the Bible did Jesus advocate killing? You are showing your arse here in this thread.

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and last time I checked abortion was legal


And I, and many others have a problem with taxpayer money going to murderers.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20389 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:14 am to
are you an idiot? how is it not a woman's choice?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57864 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:14 am to
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Have you heard about the Crusades? and last time I checked abortion was legal



Yes I'm sure Dr. Hops was around for the Crusades!
Posted by DR Hops
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2014
301 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:15 am to
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are you an idiot? how is it not a woman's choice?


Again, you are trying to argue "woman's choice" when the argument is not about woman's choice. It's about murder of an unborn child. Justifying by saying "woman's choice" is like justifying rape as "man's choice".
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20389 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:15 am to
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And I, and many others have a problem with taxpayer money going to murderers
lol
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:16 am to
it is the woman's choice and it's a fetus not a baby. More of men telling women what to do.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:18 am to
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Over 1,200 babies have been born in the US after a failed abortion attempt. One occurrence of this should be enough of a reason.



Just like the "one innocent man" argument from the Left about the death penalty... but they don't make the intellectual bridge.
Posted by DR Hops
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2014
301 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:21 am to
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it's a fetus not a baby.


Do you have children? My wife is pregnant. She is about 17 weeks at the moment. Are you going to tell me that the forming of limbs, a heartbeat. The baby is now capable of hearing us. How is that not a human being?

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More of men telling women what to do.


I think i've quite extensively debunked the "woman's choice" argument. It's a logical fallacy that you love parroting because your slave masters in office repeat it.

We've gone 5 pages in this thread and the consensus of those that are against abortion are because it's murder. Seems silly for you to try to bring up what you think is your "ace in the hole" to try to silence the opposition.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:21 am to
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How about giving up for adoption to somebody who wants it?


I am all for that but some people just wont part with their children.




They can't put the kid up for adoption because they can't part with the child... but they sure as frick would have no problem killing said child?
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20442 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:21 am to
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it's a fetus not a baby.
Until it's yours and you want it.

I'm sorry but that's bullshite. Yes it's a fetus by definition. But it's also a baby too.
Posted by DR Hops
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2014
301 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:24 am to
Oh, here is a baby at 22 weeks, that you consider "just a fetus" and not qualifying of life.



Clearly it has no distinguishable features to humans.

This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 11:26 am
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20389 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:31 am to
no way the GOP leaves this choice up to women good god they cant think for themselves just ask Paul Ryan
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:32 am to
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I believe it propagates bad decision making and terminates an innocent human life.

I also recognize the latter is more of a religious reason and don't want my religious beliefs put into legislation.


How is the latter more of a religious reason? You don't have to believe in any god to think that you are terminating life. I'm not religious, but I do think that we all have a moral compass of what's right and what's wrong. It just seems wrong to me, that's why I'm against it.

We live in a society that is constantly looking for a way to have an out when they screw up. The worlds not an easy or fair place, so I have no sympathy for the arguement that a child will ruin someones life if they willingly make the choice to engage in an act that's natural purpose is to make children. If it's not their choice (i.e. rape), I can see that there's some grey area. Otherwise, I thinks it's absurd that we are willing to terminate a life, because someone made a choice and can't deal with the consequences.

Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 12:08 pm to
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I am 100% per cent in favor of a woman's right to choose.


Does the child have a choice? Because I believe I know what they would choose.
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