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Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:51 am to Wes B
abortion threads all of a sudden coming alive
Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:51 am to ninthward
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the state owns my unborn child
The state owns the convicted felons that are put to death?
Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:52 am to ninthward
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No its unfathomable for you to understand people dont want to live like you, they do not want to worship like you, they do not want to be you,
I do not care how someone wants to live. I do care about how someone wants to end life. That is the issue. LIFE. Man does not decide who lives or dies. And if one takes it into his/her own hands, they should suffer the consequences.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:53 am to asurob1
Have you ever seen Body Worlds 3? There is a room in the exhibit dedicated to pregnancy. It's fascinating. They have actual fetuses at each week of gestation on display. Go look at it and tell me that babies are "nonviable tissue masses." They are human, and deserve to be treated as such.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:55 am to DR Hops
too funny this is kinda fun, I am for a woman's right to choose, religion and opinion mean zero to me, if you are not the women or the father you have no say, period, make all the Chiraq references you want.
*dont preach social reform from you desk
*dont preach social reform from you desk
Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:56 am to Rex
quote:I like this.
I think I'm going to have to take a break.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:56 am to ninthward
quote:lol who the f do you think you are? you have no right to interject into anyones life.
I do not care how someone wants to live. I do care about how someone wants to end life. That is the issue. LIFE. Man does not decide who lives or dies. And if one takes it into his/her own hands, they should suffer the consequences.
quote:bwahahahahahah you mean hell fire and brimstone, gtfo with that shite
And if one takes it into his/her own hands, they should suffer the consequences.
Christianity has killed so many people throughout history its a complete joke for Christians to take this moral high ground
This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 10:58 am
Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:56 am to ninthward
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when there are thousands of children already born you can help out today?
I sincerely hope that is not your sole determinate for favoring the taking of life. We could use that same argument to terminate new welfare recipients. Already got a bunch.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:56 am to SoulGlo
Over 1,200 babies have been born in the US after a failed abortion attempt. One occurrence of this should be enough of a reason.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:57 am to ninthward
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yep its a personal responsibility thing not a religious thing or what you feel is right thing, Someone does not have to live a certain way because you feel its wrong. Finally is it your baby or your body, nope so shut the f up and another reason why the GOP blows, just another way to alienate and polarize women LOL
Not sure what point you were trying to make, or whether or not you agreed with mine, but, I have stated my stance before in another thread. I am not Pro Choice or Pro Life, I am Pro Reason. If the pregnancy will most likely kill the mother(i.e. tubular or something of that nature), is a result of rape or incest(as this can cause serious health problems to the child), I concede that abortion is a viable option. However, because someone didn't want to be tied down by a birth control regiment, or just has poor decision making skills, abortion should not be an option.
Also, this is not a bad starting point:
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A proposal I'm for, but will never happen is:
A woman gets one "freebie" abortion if it was a willing pregnancy, meaning the woman freely engaged in sex and wasn't forced.
If she gets pregnant a second time, she can either have the child or have an abortion, but if she chooses abortion then that's it, she is fixed for life.
I think we should add to that though. In the realm of women on government assistance who choose to keep having children, after two births they should be fixed. Before everyone attacks me for this stance, know that my own sister has four kids by at least two different men, is on governmet assistance, and indeed the births of all four children were done through government assistance hospitals and programs. The "father" of the last two kids is a guy who smoked himself into a retard years ago. I had even said to family members after the birth of her second child that my sister should have been fixed then, because she has no decision making skills. She still lives with our parents with all four of her children, and she's nearly 30. Up until recently, her POS "man" was even living under my parents roof, neither he nor my sister holding down a job, or trying to get one.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:57 am to ninthward
Accept your own responsibility. If you father a child, you should pay for raising it. If we fail to protect the weakest and most innocent, we have failed as a civilization. Don't make this into a "conservatives" won't pay for it story. Why should anyone be burdened with the obligation to support a child, simply because the parents refuse to do so?
Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:58 am to Tiguar
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I also recognize the latter is more of a religious reason
I've never understood why this ought to be the case. Certainly religious people who view life as sacred can take that position on abortion, but I could envision an atheist having the same position that it is innocent human life. It doesn't HAVE to be informed by religion.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:59 am to ninthward
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you have no right to interject into anyones life.
But can you see how some people think abortion is, by definition, interjecting into someone else's life? That termination of a pregnancy violates that child's right to exist?
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:00 am to ninthward
quote:change subject? Really?
typical left wing jargon, change subject and deflect.
The subject is "Why Are You Against Abortion?", so why are you even in this thread?
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:00 am to ninthward
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if you are not the women or the father you have no say, period,
So parents should be able to kill their toddler?
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:02 am to ninthward
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yada yada yada, such a joke, against abortion, will use religion to bolster that point as a right, LOL, But no one wants to pay for the child after, conservatives sure as hell dont want to pay for welfare babies but god forbid should you have an abortion SHAME
hypocrites
we want you to keep your baby as a result of not being responsible but wont help you take care of it even though you are not financially able too.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:03 am to StraightCashHomey21
quote:How about giving up for adoption to somebody who wants it?
we want you to keep your baby
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:03 am to ninthward
quote:Unless it's in the womb. Then you can kill it indiscriminately.
lol who the f do you think you are? you have no right to interject into anyones life.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:04 am to RealityTiger
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How about giving up for adoption to somebody who wants it?
I am all for that but some people just wont part with their children.
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