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re: When did the right stop being about limited government and start peddling conspiracies?

Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:25 am to
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:25 am to
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When did the right stop being about limited government


ROFLMAO
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:26 am to
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When did the right stop being about limited government and start peddling conspiracies? by Draconian Sanctions


If your premise is shite, you must acquit!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:27 am to
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No, by saying that what someone did in college is more important than who their financial interests are with.

so that's really the reason why liberals want Trump's taxes?

why was this a huge issue before the Russian angle was even being promoted by the DEMs/MSM?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:27 am to
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Do you think he has illegal shite in his tax filings?


I have no idea, but if someone wants to be President I want to know who their financial interests are with before I make an assessment on whether or not I want them to be president.

Do you just not care about crony capitalism at all? And on top of that you think what grade Obama got in French Lit I is of deep national concern?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:28 am to
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Speaking of conspiracy theories.
Are you sure you want to say the IRS was not politically motivated under the Obama Admin?

This is your stance?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35374 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:28 am to
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Except for the whole Pentagon Papers thing . . .
The wars in Asia were lies before LBJ got into office. Plus anytime the military is involved there is going to be huge pressure from them to lie.

I was referring to more domestic issues and thinking of his maneuvering against other politicians.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:29 am to
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Speaking of conspiracy theories. The Republican hired Lerner who was put into her position by Bush in the last year of that administration is the responsibility of Obama.


wait are you denying that conservative groups were unfairly targeted by the IRS (when filing for PACs)?
quote:

Zero evidence that Obama did anything with the IRS.

i said the "IRS of Obama", not the actions of Obama personally

the IRS 100% got busted doing illegal targeting based on ideological differences. do you think it was conservative employees of the IRS who were targeting/denying conservative groups? or is it more likely these employees were liberals within the IRS?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:30 am to
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why was this a huge issue before the Russian angle was even being promoted by the DEMs/MSM?
They wanted to show how little he paid in taxes, to appeal to the Sanders supporters.

That
Is
All

A desperation grab at a disenfranchised demographic.
This post was edited on 5/29/17 at 11:31 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:30 am to
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Do you just not care about crony capitalism at all?

i care about it a lot

nothing can be done until we strip the federal government of its powers. anything else is a talking point
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:32 am to
Claims to care about crony capitalism "a lot"

Doesn't care about Presidential candidates disclosing financial interests

Hmmmmmmmm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35374 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:35 am to
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wait are you denying that conservative groups were unfairly targeted by the IRS (when filing for PACs)?
They were "targetted" in that an idiot (who was put there by a Republican) put in search terms that disproportionately flagged their applications.

However, I think that they were overall properly flagged, just that a ton of other groups should have been as well. There are a ton of political groups who should NOT have a tax exemption from all sides.

The conspiracy that you were pushing that Obama somehow "weaponized" the IRS is complete bs.


quote:

i said the "IRS of Obama", not the actions of Obama personally
You know the shade you are trying to throw.
This post was edited on 5/29/17 at 11:39 am
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54203 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:35 am to
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but if someone wants to be President I want to know who their financial interests are with before I make an assessment on whether or not I want them to be president.


Didn't Trump put out about a hundred page report of his financial dealings? You should have read it then if you had questions. His personal taxes have no bearing on his business taxes so I really don't understand your point here.
Posted by MasterofTigerBait
Member since May 2009
7592 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:37 am to
When (the majority of) Conservatives started listening to intellectual lightweights Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh.

I enjoyed this National Review article on the topic LINK
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35374 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:37 am to
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Didn't Trump put out about a hundred page report of his financial dealings? You should have read it then if you had questions. His personal taxes have no bearing on his business taxes so I really don't understand your point here.
It left out a ton of foreign businesses thanks to a loophole.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:38 am to
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The conspiracy that you were pushing that Obama somehow "weaponized" the IRS is complete bs.

False
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:38 am to
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Didn't Trump put out about a hundred page report of his financial dealings? You should have read it then if you had questions.


And how can we verify that it's a complete and accurate look at Trump's business dealings?

quote:

His personal taxes have no bearing on his business taxes


Maybe they do, maybe they don't. We can't really say can we?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:41 am to
picsonsizzle.com?
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:43 am to
Dems gave birth to 9/11 truthers, bush rigged Florida, bush blew up the levees, muh Russia, JFK conspiracies and so many more
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:43 am to
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When (the majority of) Conservatives started listening to intellectual lightweights Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh.


So who were the dems listening to when the majority believed Bush knew about 9/11 or are they just naturally
Uninformed

Bush knew damnit! According to half of dems.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:47 am to
Remember when George Bush blew up the levees in N.O. during Katrina.
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