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re: When did the right stop being about limited government and start peddling conspiracies?

Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:04 am to
Posted by Dignan
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:04 am to
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Muh Russians


Muh Seth Rich.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:04 am to
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I'll just say when Obama refused to expose his college transcripts it was an opportune time for "why not" concerning conspiracies.

this was a big inflection point

Obama's college years are a big mystery, like was his arrival at Occidental College the first documented time he stepped foot in the continental US? how did he transfer from some no name school to Columbia? what name did he use while in college?

these aren't conspiracy theories. we honestly don't know the answers and Obama has kept verifiable information relating to his college years shut out, away from the public discourse
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:04 am to
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The same birther conspiracy that was started during the primary by the Clinton campaign?


Ah the conspiracy within the conspiracy
This post was edited on 5/29/17 at 11:05 am
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:05 am to
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LBJ was ruthless with political pressure, but he mostly stayed in the lanes with regards to being technically honest.




Except for the whole Pentagon Papers thing . . .


You are the poster child for ignorance-infused hackishness.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:05 am to
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Ah the conspiracy within the conspiracy

i think even liberal arse snopes verifies this, it just won't verify that it was HRC herself who ordered that information released
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:05 am to
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LBJ was far worse
Only president I classify as truly evil.

50k dead soldiers in a war HE INTENTIONALLY MADE UNWINNABLE.

Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:06 am to
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I'll just say when Obama refused to expose his college transcripts it was an opportune time for "why not" concerning conspiracies.


this was a big inflection point


Interesting. Similar to the "why not" moment everybody had when Trump refused to release his tax returns
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:06 am to
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Except for the whole Pentagon Papers thing . . .

or hell how about just the Gulf of Tonkin?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:07 am to
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liberal arse snopes


you're better than this SFP

At least I thought you were...
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:07 am to
That whacky kook Jackie had the audacity to believe LBJ had JFK killed

And other Texas tycoons... (look for GHWB in proximity to this event)
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:07 am to
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Except for the whole Pentagon Papers thing . . .

or hell how about just the Gulf of Tonkin?


"Technical honesty"
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:07 am to
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Similar to the "why not" moment everybody had when Trump refused to release his tax returns

somebody else tried to make that point but it honestly doesn't make any sense

what a person pays in taxes has nothing to do with anything. it's literally just a talking point

a person's actual history and biography? that matters
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:07 am to
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i think even liberal arse snopes verifies this, it just won't verify that it was HRC herself who ordered that information released

I have said it before:

If it comes out in the Primaries, it isn't the opposition party doing it to you.

They would save it for the General.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:08 am to
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you're better than this SFP

so wait you're claiming Snopes doesn't have a political bias?
Posted by mmcgrath
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:08 am to
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Actually, I think it started with Bush lied about WMD
A strong case could be made for that Iraq War drive. The Bush administration / RNC had a whole building set up for disinformation and to attack anyone who voiced opposition. There were so many people who chose to believe government who were just disillusioned.

I had a close neighbor who was as liberal as they come who totally bought into it.
Posted by SlackMaster
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:08 am to
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Are you seriously contending that the released BC was real?


This is the thing for me. I'm not a birther but do find it strange that NOBODY (outside of birthers) is curious as to why no real birth certificate has been released.

BTW, a piece of trivia: Yes, the "official" BC released by the Obama administration has been proven a fake. But, the one from Kenya on the Internet been proven a fake as well. I often think it is really that Obama has something he wishes to hide -- similar to his college applications, thesis, etc.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:09 am to
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Similar to the "why not" moment everybody had when Trump refused to release his tax returns


So you're okay with Obama withholding his transcripts but yet you loathe the idea of Trump keeping his taxes from being exposed?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:09 am to
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"Technical honesty"

shite my parents are hippies and lifelong DEMs and they fricking HATE LBJ. my dad probably hates LBJ more than Nixon
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:10 am to
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somebody else tried to make that point but it honestly doesn't make any sense

what a person pays in taxes has nothing to do with anything. it's literally just a talking point

a person's actual history and biography? that matters


Wow

You just dropped a bit in my estimation
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:10 am to
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Muh Seth Rich


Well, he is actually dead...there's a corpse with bullet holes

And the only motive anyone would have would be because someone wanted to kill who people assume leak things...

Or a "failed robbery"...whatevs
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