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Posted on 10/31/23 at 9:45 am to RealityWinsOut
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At least gets something moving. Better than what we are dealing with now.
And that is the point.
Posted on 10/31/23 at 9:45 am to RFK
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11. Homelessness. Relocate thousands of homeless to newly-created tent cities.
I’m sure this would go well.
Posted on 10/31/23 at 9:45 am to RFK
1. Federal Workers. Fire thousands of federal employees he deems are “the deep state” and move several agencies out of Washington.
Boss Tweed and his Dems go to Washington. Goody.
2. Agencies. Assert independent control over the Federal Trade Commission and Federal Communications Commission.
Good idea.
3. Spending. Revive the so-called impoundment power, which presidents have asserted to refuse to spend money appropriated by Congress
Worth trying, but probably unconstitutional
4. Citizenship. Issue an EO ending constitutional right to birthright citizenship.
Definitely unconstitutional. Pure jingoistic virtue signaling and thus an utterly pointless waste of money, resources and political capital.
5. Law Enforcement. Defund the FBI and DOJ
Dem stupidity.
6. Immigration. Carry out the “largest deportation operation” in US history and send thousands of US troops to the Texas/Mexico border.
Congress will never fund the round-up.
7. Drugs. Order the Navy to enforce a full embargo to prevent fentanyl and other drugs from entering the country.
Stupid. This is a matter for law enforcement, not the military.
8. Trade. Impose a 10% tariff on nearly all imported goods.
Dem protectionism
9. China. Impose restrictions on Chinese ownership of infrastructure in the US.
I sympathize, but this is probably unconstitutional.
10. Housing. Build new housing cities on federal land
More Dem-style big government. It didn't do any good then, and it won't do any good now.
11. Homelessness. Relocate thousands of homeless to newly-created tent cities
Unconstitutional, if coerced. Pointless if voluntary.
Boss Tweed and his Dems go to Washington. Goody.
2. Agencies. Assert independent control over the Federal Trade Commission and Federal Communications Commission.
Good idea.
3. Spending. Revive the so-called impoundment power, which presidents have asserted to refuse to spend money appropriated by Congress
Worth trying, but probably unconstitutional
4. Citizenship. Issue an EO ending constitutional right to birthright citizenship.
Definitely unconstitutional. Pure jingoistic virtue signaling and thus an utterly pointless waste of money, resources and political capital.
5. Law Enforcement. Defund the FBI and DOJ
Dem stupidity.
6. Immigration. Carry out the “largest deportation operation” in US history and send thousands of US troops to the Texas/Mexico border.
Congress will never fund the round-up.
7. Drugs. Order the Navy to enforce a full embargo to prevent fentanyl and other drugs from entering the country.
Stupid. This is a matter for law enforcement, not the military.
8. Trade. Impose a 10% tariff on nearly all imported goods.
Dem protectionism
9. China. Impose restrictions on Chinese ownership of infrastructure in the US.
I sympathize, but this is probably unconstitutional.
10. Housing. Build new housing cities on federal land
More Dem-style big government. It didn't do any good then, and it won't do any good now.
11. Homelessness. Relocate thousands of homeless to newly-created tent cities
Unconstitutional, if coerced. Pointless if voluntary.
Posted on 10/31/23 at 9:54 am to Antoninus
quote:Once again, for clarity, the OP claim "Trump Releases 11-Point Campaign Plan" is a false troll.
Antoninus
Posted on 10/31/23 at 9:59 am to CatahoulaCur
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This is not true… there are close to 50 countries that offer birthright citizenship
We are keeping great company. Canada is the only other first-world country on the list.
The following countries have unrestricted birthright citizenship: Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Barbados, Belize, Bolivia, Brazil, Canada, Chad, Child, Costa Rica, Cuba, Dominica, Ecuador, El Salvador, Fiji, Grenada, Guatemala, Guyana, Honduras, Jamaica, Lesotho, Mexico, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Tanzania, Trinidad and Tobago, Tuvalu, the United States, Uruguay, and Venezuela.
Posted on 10/31/23 at 10:02 am to GumboPot
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At least gets something moving. Better than what we are dealing with now.
And that is the point.
"Do something" is how we got where we are.
Posted on 10/31/23 at 10:03 am to Dday63
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People are downvoting a quote from the 14th Amendment? This is why Romney says the modern GOP doesn't believe in the Constitution.
There are many constitutional scholars who disagree with birthright citizenship and say that the 14th is misinterpreted.
Posted on 10/31/23 at 10:06 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Canada is the only other first-world country on the list.
What's a first world country? And why don't these countries count?
Posted on 10/31/23 at 10:23 am to Ribbed
He finished more shite in 4 years then all other presidents combined
Posted on 10/31/23 at 10:23 am to oklahogjr
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What's a first world country?
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List of Countries of the First World
The term First World originally refers to the capitalist, industrialized countries, within the Western European and United States' sphere of influence, (e.g. member states of the NATO). The term also includes other industrialized countries such as Japan and some of the former British colonies, particularly Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa.
Whoever uses the term today in a variety of meanings, mostly tries to describe the top end of the evolution of countries. Nations with the most advanced economy, highest standard of living, the most advanced technology, the greates influence in the world.
The term could also means: industrialized nations, developed countries, rich countries or the civilized world, in contrast to the poor, under-developed, un-civilized, exploited nations of the so called Third World"
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And why don't these countries count?
They do count. But those countries are not our peers, and thus we should not feel good about being aligned with them, rather than other first-world countries.
Posted on 10/31/23 at 10:25 am to bluedragon
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The Constitution doesn't grant that right .....Too bad you can't read.
Oh the irony:
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All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
Birth = citizenship.
I agree it isn't the best policy, but try not to weigh in on constitutional matters, or reading, if you don't know what you are talking about.
Posted on 10/31/23 at 10:26 am to Antoninus
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1. Federal Workers. Fire thousands of federal employees he deems are “the deep state” and move several agencies out of Washington.
100% agree with this but i dunno about ones he "deems" deep state. I dont want 1 person deciding that like a dictator. go to congress and get the agency defunded.
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2. Agencies. Assert independent control over the Federal Trade Commission and Federal Communications Commission.[quote]10. Housing. Build new housing cities on federal land
More Dem-style big government. It didn't do any good then, and it won't do any good now.
sounds good
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3. Spending. Revive the so-called impoundment power, which presidents have asserted to refuse to spend money appropriated by Congress
Worth trying, but probably unconstitutional
good with that, but not really into 1 person overriding the will of congress. but anything to lower spending. I dont like it though because if you set precedent, whats to say next dem comes in and spends way more that allocated?
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4. Citizenship. Issue an EO ending constitutional right to birthright citizenship.
he cant just decide this like a dictator and thats what EOs are for. I support the removal of birthright citzenship, its dumb AF. but you cant do it this way.
again the president isnt king or a dictator
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5. Law Enforcement. Defund the FBI and DOJ
i mean im ok with this but its never gonna happen. and if that is the case is he going to stop supporting civil forfeiture like he has in the past? because that is the most abused thing by law enforcement.
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6. Immigration. Carry out the “largest deportation operation” in US history and send thousands of US troops to the Texas/Mexico border.
awesome
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7. Drugs. Order the Navy to enforce a full embargo to prevent fentanyl and other drugs from entering the country.
why the navy? most things are coming over the border not through water. im good with militarizing the border though. been calling for that.
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8. Trade. Impose a 10% tariff on nearly all imported goods.
so his plan to get inflation under control and restart the economy is a 10% tax and going against the conservative principles of free trade?
yea good luck with that
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9. China. Impose restrictions on Chinese ownership of infrastructure in the US.
good with this. should be possible through showing connection to the regime and possible enacting sanctions
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10. Housing. Build new housing cities on federal land
11. Homelessness. Relocate thousands of homeless to newly-created tent cities
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these are straight out of the democrat playbook. frick that. no more government housing
and you cant just force peopel to live in a tent city. completely unconstitutional
overall maybe good ideas in theory, most are frickign retarded when you break them down.
Posted on 10/31/23 at 10:26 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I'm good with all of it, I just don't think he has a serious plan to implement it much less the people to execute it
Theyre not bad ideas as stand alone, but theyre impossible to enforce so they are literal pipe dreams.
Not impossible but difficult and requiring serious organization, discipline, backbone, and legal counsel. Trump doesn't have any of those things.
Posted on 10/31/23 at 10:26 am to NC_Tigah
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Antoninus
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Once again, for clarity, the OP claim "Trump Releases 11-Point Campaign Plan" is a false troll.
Once again, for clarity, Antoninus is Hank.
Posted on 10/31/23 at 10:29 am to Antoninus
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Definitely unconstitutional. Pure jingoistic virtue signaling and thus an utterly pointless waste of money, resources and political capital.
Birthright citizenship needs to go before the Supreme Court. This would get it there. Many constitutional scholars believe the current interpretation is incorrect.
Posted on 10/31/23 at 11:06 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Birthright citizenship needs to go before the Supreme Court. This would get it there. Many constitutional scholars believe the current interpretation is incorrect.
quote:Many? It would be hard to find two that anyone takes seriously.
Birthright citizenship needs to go before the Supreme Court. This would get it there. Many constitutional scholars believe the current interpretation is incorrect.
Posted on 10/31/23 at 11:08 am to CatahoulaCur
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I’m not saying I agree with it, but don’t lie to make your case.
Oh boy. We are WAY past that point when it comes to the idiots on both sides who used memes as political debate.
Posted on 10/31/23 at 11:17 am to BigJim
FIFY
Heritage Foundation
Birthright Citizenship: A Fundamental Misunderstanding of the 14th Amendment
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Birth != citizenship
Heritage Foundation
Birthright Citizenship: A Fundamental Misunderstanding of the 14th Amendment
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KEY TAKEAWAYS
1. Critics claim that anyone born in the United States is automatically a U.S. citizen, even if their parents are here illegally.
2. Its original meaning refers to the political allegiance of an individual and the jurisdiction that a foreign government has over that individual.
3. Birthright citizenship has been implemented by executive fiat, not because it is required by federal law or the Constitution.
This post was edited on 10/31/23 at 11:19 am
Posted on 10/31/23 at 11:19 am to NIH
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Perhaps you can live in one?
Might be worth it just to no longer have to keep the pool and landscaping up.
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