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re: Trump Releases 11-Point Campaign Plan. Are These Feasible?

Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:31 am to
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46557 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:31 am to
Trump needs to simplify his campaign message.

1) Secure the borders, begin deportation of illegals.
2) Purge and reduce size of the Bureaucratic State (FBI, DOJ, IRS, CIA, etc.)
3) Restore the US manufacturing/industrial base, end all technology transfers to China
4) Iron clad protection of the 1 & 2 amendments
5) Congressional term limits along with comprehensive lobby reform
6) Coherent foreign policy with an America 1st philosophy
7) Enforcement of current immigration laws and yes, end birthright citizenship.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262338 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:31 am to
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I think your TDS level has outpaced SloFroPro


Explain how to blockade Cartels with the US navy.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119180 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:31 am to
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So executive orders can overrule constitutional provisions now? Good to know,



The current constitutional basis for birth right citizenship is based on a footnote from a case in the 19th century. Need an EO to challenge the current birth right paradigm and form a more concrete basis for birth right citizenship one way or the other.

Or congress and/or the states can step in and define it for SCOTUS which I'm sure they would much more prefer.
This post was edited on 10/31/23 at 8:33 am
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
36775 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:34 am to
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Fire thousands of federal employees he deems are “the deep state” and move several agencies out of Washington.

When is he gonna tell us who these thousands of federal workers are? I don't need names but I'd like to know positions and agencies...

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Spending. Revive the so-called impoundment power, which presidents have asserted to refuse to spend money appropriated by Congress

So if we still run a deficit then it's definitely his fault?

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Citizenship. Issue an EO ending constitutional right to birthright citizenship.

Using an executive order to overturn the constitution? Can you do that?

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Law Enforcement. Defund the FBI and DOJ

Love it let's suck local police funding out of everything too.

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Drugs. Order the Navy to enforce a full embargo to prevent fentanyl and other drugs from entering the country.

What? We can't stop drugs from getting to prison? We're gonna embargo ourselves?

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Housing. Build new housing cities on federal land.

11. Homelessness. Relocate thousands of homeless to newly-created tent cities.


Wait so are we building housing cities or tent city homeless camps?
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7446 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:34 am to
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10. Housing. Build new housing cities on federal land.


FFS the majority of our problems come from population centers. He wants to build more of them? Why? So the Dems can make even easier to subvert elections?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116437 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:35 am to
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The current constitutional basis for birth right citizenship is based on a footnote from a case in the 19th century. Need an EO to challenge the current birth right paradigm and form a more concrete basis for birth right citizenship one way or the other.



An EO wouldn't necessarily challenge any case.

It would just turn on whether the President has the authority to issue an EO on the matter, which he does not.

I'd applaud the effort but it wouldn't do a thing.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74597 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:36 am to
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Explain how to blockade Cartels with the US navy.



Cut off the ports where they get all the drugs/chemicals/ppl shipped seems like a why to hurt them

Its amazing how fricking stoopid you are
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
10812 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:39 am to

Heritage Foundation

Birthright Citizenship: A Fundamental Misunderstanding of the 14th Amendment
This post was edited on 10/31/23 at 8:46 am
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19727 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:39 am to
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5. Law Enforcement. Defund the FBI and DOJ


If you can't tell his desire to be POTUS is personally motivated, this should give you a clue.

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9. China. Impose restrictions on Chinese ownership of infrastructure in the US.


Just infrastructure?

Housing on Federal Lands

Depends on where these Federal Lands are.

I like all these ideas, but we all know most are undoable.

This post was edited on 10/31/23 at 8:41 am
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7446 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:39 am to
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If a candidate is not talking about healthcare, it's a mistake. That is a looming crisis.


We probably need Vivek to explain how Health Insurance isn't Healthcare in the same manner that Car Insurance isn't Car Care.

Car Insurance = get in wreck, car get fixed
Health Insurance = break an arm, arm gets fixed

Car car = change oil
Health care = buy Tylenol for headache

Health care is not welfare recipients going to the ER for a headache to receive a "free" bottle of Tylenol.
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
36775 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:42 am to
So are the anchor babies citizens of their home countries at birth in the US?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262338 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:43 am to
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Cut off the ports where they get all the drugs/chemicals/ppl shipped seems like a why to hurt them


There are 150 billion dollars waiting in the USA for them, what do you think will happen?
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:44 am to
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3. Spending. Revive the so-called impoundment power, which presidents have asserted to refuse to spend money appropriated by Congress.

Stopped here. Imagine cheering on the WH wrestling away even more power from Congress. Yea, this wouldn't come back to bite that arse at all.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
10812 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:44 am to
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Explain how to blockade Cartels with the US navy.


With depth charges.

Drug cartels building new ‘stealth’ narco subs that can smuggle £86m of cocaine into America undetected
This post was edited on 10/31/23 at 8:46 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74597 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:45 am to
What does that even mean
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Member since Oct 2023
648 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:48 am to
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1. Federal Workers. Fire thousands of federal employees he deems are “the deep state” and move several agencies out of Washington.


Had a chance to do that in first term

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2. Agencies. Assert independent control over the Federal Trade Commission and Federal Communications Commission.


Didn't do in first term

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3. Spending. Revive the so-called impoundment power, which presidents have asserted to refuse to spend money appropriated by Congress.


Didn't cut spending in first term

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4. Citizenship. Issue an EO ending constitutional right to birthright citizenship.


Will take a constitutional challenge and Supreme Court ruling

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5. Law Enforcement. Defund the FBI and DOJ


So no federal law enforcement? Just another form of defund the police

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6. Immigration. Carry out the “largest deportation operation” in US history and send thousands of US troops to the Texas/Mexico border.


Didn't do in first term

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7. Drugs. Order the Navy to enforce a full embargo to prevent fentanyl and other drugs from entering the country.


It's coming from across the border, where there was supposed to be a wall

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8. Trade. Impose a 10% tariff on nearly all imported goods.


Smoot Hawley all over again

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9. China. Impose restrictions on Chinese ownership of infrastructure in the US.


Should have done in first term

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10. Housing. Build new housing cities on federal land.


Affordable housing? Commercial housing? What does this mean?

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11. Homelessness. Relocate thousands of homeless to newly-created tent cities.



I'm not for bailing out blue cities with taxpayer dollars


Looks like a good list, most of which could have and should have been done while he was fighting twitter wars in his first term.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36333 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:49 am to
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Some is 100% bogus. Some is garnered from talkshow comments. None is a Trump Campaign Release as far as I can tell.

Thxs
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167673 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:51 am to
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4. Citizenship. Issue an EO ending constitutional right to birthright citizenship.


I am for this for "birth vacations" Mexicans take but not sure how it's not challenged
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262338 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:55 am to
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What does that even mean


It means youre a lightweight.

The laws of economics prove that financial incentive will overcome any efforts to prohibit.

In every case.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124379 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:58 am to
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Using an executive order to overturn the constitution? Can you do that?
Such a thoughtful post. So, perhaps you can help out?

If I visit a country which does not have an extradition treaty with the United States, am I still subject to US jurisdiction while residing there?
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