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Thoughts on Mayor Landrieu's speech before the removal of the monuments?

Posted on 5/24/17 at 1:58 pm
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 1:58 pm
I think he makes some good points. I'd love to hear what others think of the speech.

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But there are also other truths about our city that we must confront. New Orleans was America’s largest slave market: a port where hundreds of thousands of souls were brought, sold and shipped up the Mississippi River to lives of forced labor of misery of rape, of torture.

America was the place where nearly 4,000 of our fellow citizens were lynched, 540 alone in Louisiana; where the courts enshrined ‘separate but equal’; where Freedom riders coming to New Orleans were beaten to a bloody pulp.

So when people say to me that the monuments in question are history, well what I just described is real history as well, and it is the searing truth.

And it immediately begs the questions: why there are no slave ship monuments, no prominent markers on public land to remember the lynchings or the slave blocks; nothing to remember this long chapter of our lives; the pain, the sacrifice, the shame … all of it happening on the soil of New Orleans.

So for those self-appointed defenders of history and the monuments, they are eerily silent on what amounts to this historical malfeasance, a lie by omission.

There is a difference between remembrance of history and reverence of it. For America and New Orleans, it has been a long, winding road, marked by great tragedy and great triumph. But we cannot be afraid of our truth.

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Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5851 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 1:59 pm to
i thought it was a solid speech. now duck because he comes the down votes and poster's calling him liberal white washing scum.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51806 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 1:59 pm to
I didn't hear his speech but as a general rule I think anyone that's into revisionist history is a fricking idiot.
Posted by WHS
walker LA.
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:00 pm to
Mitch is a liberal cuck looking for personal political gain
end of story.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:02 pm to
So many fallacies in one place.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:04 pm to
If you're interested in reading others' thoughts, there's another thread on this subject: link.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62433 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:04 pm to
The back flipping justification screams that he knows he pissed off a lot of people, and throwing the "how do you explain it to the kids" was the ultimate tell that he went too far in his exploitative propaganda. This is like the Nazis burning books, or ISIS destroying Ancient Iraqi artifacts and history. Well, this is Landrieu's legacy, now. Deal with it. That's what I get from it...
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:05 pm to
I would have preferred that the statues stay up. I grew up in New Orleans and I can say with certainty that looking at the statues never conjured up thoughts of the Confederacy for me. The statues were local landmarks that helped give a sense of place, especially Lee Circle and the Beauregard statue near City Park. However, Landrieu addresses that mindset in his speech and he makes a good point IMO. I think he made a strong case for their removal.
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:05 pm to

Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61269 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

I didn't hear his speech but as a general rule I think anyone that's into revisionist history is a fricking idiot.
I'm not sure what you mean, at least in the context of this thread.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140395 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:08 pm to
So how many times have you taken your kids to a statue to teach them about life lessons?

It was about the kids after all, right?

Does Jackson square have to go or can Jesse be used in Andrew's stead.
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 2:09 pm
Posted by BIGFOOD
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

I didn't hear his speech but as a general rule I think anyone that's into revisionist history is a fricking idiot.

Posted by Quarterite
The Lower Quarter
Member since Oct 2016
959 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:11 pm to
Calling them monuments to "The Cult of the Lost Cause" is genius. And exactly correct. Have an up vote, sir.

Posted by zeebo
Hammond
Member since Jan 2008
5193 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:12 pm to
It was stupid to take them down because there was no outcry to do so. Now there will be monuments to the slave trade put up in their place. None of this helps moving forward.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39190 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:13 pm to
I don't understand why this is such a pressing issue now. Especially with everything else that needs to be fixed in that town.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:13 pm to
Several of my high school English teachers were blowing up Facebook about this. They are going to use the speech when teaching Huck Finn.

I still don't get how relocating monuments built in the 1880s to commemorate The Cult of the Lost Cause is destroying history. They aren't being destroyed. They aren't honoring the south or the men they represent.
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 2:16 pm
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33891 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

So when people say to me that the monuments in question are history, well what I just described is real history as well, and it is the searing truth.


Liked most of it but that's disappointing. MLK statues aren't symbols of plagiarism and adultery.

ETA: Also, Beauregard is the grandfather of civil rights.
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 2:19 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50434 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

And it immediately begs the questions: why there are no slave ship monuments, no prominent markers on public land to remember the lynchings or the slave blocks; nothing to remember this long chapter of our lives; the pain, the sacrifice, the shame … all of it happening on the soil of New Orleans.


Civil Rights Museums don't count?
Posted by Quarterite
The Lower Quarter
Member since Oct 2016
959 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

I didn't hear his speech but as a general rule I think anyone that's into revisionist history is a fricking idiot.


Well, you fricking idiot, if you bothered to read the speech, you'd know that he explains why it's not revisionist history. Erecting monuments to The Cult of the Lost Cause and promoting a sanitized version of Confederacy--that was revisionist history.
Posted by Luke
1113 Chartres Street, NOLA
Member since Nov 2004
13412 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:18 pm to
good question Mitch, why haven't those monuments been constructed by NOLA? Could it be those that advocate for such haven't contributed to the cost of doing such? The Confed monuments were not built with public funding btw...
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