re: Thoughts on Mayor Landrieu's speech before the removal of the monuments?

Sorry, I'm more interested in actual results not smoke and mirror speeches. Speeches are for the easily swayed unwashed masses.

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By the very nature of removing monuments from a time long past, we are actually being more afraid of our truth than by remembering our history.

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Nah. That's what museums are for.

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I didn't hear his speech but as a general rule I think anyone that's into revisionist history is a fricking idiot.

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So, you think that those who promoted the Lost Cause are scum? That's a bit harsh. They were just people trying to find some redemption in the past. They went a bit far with throwing up monuments everywhere, but most of them probably weren't scum.

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This monuments to the Lost Cause of the Confederacy are not meant to remember history or truth.

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The truth and history of the City of New Orleans is that it was the largest city of the Confederacy. That is both truth and history. So you mean to tell me, that by removing them, we are not afraid of our history or truth about the city? The monuments represent the truth and history of the city. Agree? So by removing them, you're trying to deny and hide the truth of the city. Are we to remove monuments of the 12 US Presidents who owned slaves in their life times, including George Washington?

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The truth and history of the City of New Orleans is that it was the capital city of the Confederacy. That is both truth and history.


It's actually false and a crock of bullshite. Richmond was the capital. You're kidding right? Did you really think it was New Orleans?

Relocating them isn't hiding. Put them in a museum where they belong!

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New Orleans was more akin to the New York City of the Confederacy and much of the city has long been considered (and in many ways deemed) a living museum.

It wasn't the capital. And the statues don't belong in the streets. Get over it.

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And the statues don't belong in the streets. Get over it.

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Why not?

Why don't y'all destroy the Alamo?

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And it immediately begs the questions: why there are no slave ship monuments, no prominent markers on public land to remember the lynchings or the slave blocks; nothing to remember this long chapter of our lives; the pain, the sacrifice, the shame … all of it happening on the soil of New Orleans.

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Was there some law stopping people from making monuments like that?

I need to listen to the whole speech, but the part where makes the argument people are leaving because of statues is laughably bad.

I mean I understand his point, bad shite happened hundreds of years ago. Bad shite has happened throughout history. People understand that, the existence of some monument to an individual, not an ideal, does not erase or minimize the suffering of others.

It is funny that the New York Times, Chicago Tribune, and Washington Post have all printed glowing columns about Mitch's speech. I guess Mary pulled some strings and is trying to help him stem the tide of bad press.