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re: Thoughts on Mayor Landrieu's speech before the removal of the monuments?
Posted on 5/24/17 at 4:50 pm to L.A.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 4:50 pm to L.A.
Thing is all the things mentioned in tge speech, the slaves being brought in etc, the confederacy had nothing to do with, those vessels flew the flag of the United States, the confederacy did not import even one slave.
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 4:52 pm to chickenpotpie
Lincoln was a POS.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 4:53 pm to AggieDub14
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I still don't get how relocating monuments built in the 1880s to commemorate The Cult of the Lost Cause is destroying history. They aren't being destroyed.
If you are to believe Mitch Landrieu , then your point is valid. But having grown up in New Orleans since I was 6 years old, I will tell you that Mitch is counting on 2 things.
1) he hopes that people over time will just forget about the statues and the fact that he ...and the next mayor will keep them in an abandoned car lot where they will just collect dirt.
2) If there are real bidders on the statues, he's going to put the price up too high and stipulate to the types of "organizations" that they will entertain offers from. I assure you, the one thing, the last thing that Mitch or anyone on that council wants is for someone to buy those statues.....he especially will never allow anyone within any proximity to New Orleans to get their hands on them.
Look for "take Them Down New Orleans" to go full trottle on trying take down Jackson and the statue of he LeMoyne Bros .
Posted on 5/24/17 at 4:56 pm to KiwiHead
Jackson square can have Jesse instead of Andrew. Will make the sugar gal awfully proud.
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 5/24/17 at 5:02 pm to chickenpotpie
Wow you really are one of those people that's still pissed the south lost huh? I love your attempts to bad mouth the president who is commonly regarded as the greatest this country has ever had.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 5:05 pm to AggieDub14
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Wow you really are one of those people that's still pissed the south lost huh? I love your attempts to bad mouth the president who is commonly regarded as the greatest this country has ever had.
Lincoln was an enemy to liberty.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 5:05 pm to KiwiHead
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Look for "take Them Down New Orleans" to go full trottle on trying take down Jackson and the statue of he LeMoyne Bros .
They aren't done.
They made it clear they intent to tear down more statues, rename buildings, rename streets, as well as removing plaques, etc, that represent anything they don't like.
This is just the beginning. Our Progressive friends love to rewrite and recreate history to their linking. Buckle up and be prepared to be MOCKED any time you point out that their revisionist history is wrong (first example being Jackson being part of the Civil War).
Posted on 5/24/17 at 5:06 pm to chickenpotpie
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If you actually read Lincoln's own words, you will know that he only opposed letting the South leave the Union for financial reasons. He had no interest in the well-being of black people. The South generated the majority of income at the time. When asked if he would allow the South to leave, Lincoln said, "Who then would fill our coffers?"
Sounds like BR vs. St George.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 5:06 pm to AggieDub14
Add Obama to the top of this list and ya boi Abe moves down a spot.
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 5/24/17 at 5:06 pm to chickenpotpie
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Exactly. Lincoln never gave a shite about the slaves or slavery. His "great" proclamation only freed slaves in territory under Confederate control. He had the opportunity to free the slaves that were in areas under Union control, but he didn't. The abolition of slavery for Lincoln was only a tool to control the South.
Lincoln's abhorrence to slavery is public record.
Going back to his very 1st proposed bill as Congressman to abolish slavery in D.C.
The man's record is near unassailable.
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 5/24/17 at 5:07 pm to roadGator
Obama probably isn't even in the top half Teddy Roosevelt is my favorite president.
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 5/24/17 at 5:07 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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Our Progressive friends love to rewrite and recreate history to their linking.
You know who else did that?
Bolsheviks. That's who.
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 5/24/17 at 5:08 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
I'm fully prepared for Jacksonville to go back to being known as Cowford.
I need to start a t-shirt line and a brewery.
Cowford Brewing Company has a nice ring to it.
I need to start a t-shirt line and a brewery.
Cowford Brewing Company has a nice ring to it.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 5:10 pm to sugar71
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Pretty sure it is . New Orleans was the hub of the slave trade from within the U.S. & to & from the Carribean.
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While the majority of enslaved Africans arrived in southern ports–Charleston, South Carolina was the largest market for slave traders, including the DeWolfs—most large colonial ports served as points of entry, and Africans were sold in northern ports including Philadelphia, New York, Boston,
INCONVENIENT TRUTH LINK
Posted on 5/24/17 at 5:11 pm to sugar71
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Going back to his very 1st proposed bill as Congressman to abolish slavery in D.C.
The man's record is near unassailable.
You'd be living in Central America right now had Lincoln lived.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 5:12 pm to Havoc
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Charleston, South Carolina was the largest market for slave traders,
That was my guess.
From ships run out of (gasp) Boston.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 5:12 pm to sugar71
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The man's record is near unassailable.
Lincoln also said that blacks could never assimilate and even discussed putting them back on ships to Africa.
So yeah, I admire Lincoln too but let's not go out of our way to rewrite history to make him look perfect.
Also, the post you replied to is correct: every action Lincoln took after the war was to smother the south as he viewed them as a domestic enemy, and understandably so.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 5:15 pm to sugar71
These debates always devolve into "well, Lincoln just cared about saving the Union and economics."
No shite.
We couldn't be some half-arse - half this/half that country and become the greatest country on earth. You're either in or you're out. There's no take-backs. Get off the continent if you don't want to play ball with how the country and the world was going.
And of course slavery was the issue and the economics of it...and how the South was losing all political power with new non-slave states...and how Lincoln won the Presidential election despite not being on 10 Southern State's ballots and how the Republicans controlled the House and Senate too.
Who knows if Lincoln's presidency would have abolished slavery without the Civil War.
Posters on here seem to constantly say, Lincoln wasn't against slavery...he liked slavery.
So why did the South total fricking freak out when he was elected and over-react and secede and start a war they knew they were going to lose due to the disparity in man-power and resources. They must have really really 100% believed that Lincoln was going to abolish slavery.
No shite.
We couldn't be some half-arse - half this/half that country and become the greatest country on earth. You're either in or you're out. There's no take-backs. Get off the continent if you don't want to play ball with how the country and the world was going.
And of course slavery was the issue and the economics of it...and how the South was losing all political power with new non-slave states...and how Lincoln won the Presidential election despite not being on 10 Southern State's ballots and how the Republicans controlled the House and Senate too.
Who knows if Lincoln's presidency would have abolished slavery without the Civil War.
Posters on here seem to constantly say, Lincoln wasn't against slavery...he liked slavery.
So why did the South total fricking freak out when he was elected and over-react and secede and start a war they knew they were going to lose due to the disparity in man-power and resources. They must have really really 100% believed that Lincoln was going to abolish slavery.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 5:15 pm to Havoc
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While the majority of enslaved Africans arrived in southern ports–Charleston, South Carolina was the largest market for slave traders, including the DeWolfs—most large colonial ports served as points of entry, and Africans were sold in northern ports including Philadelphia, New York, Boston,
Antebellum Period .
There were no slave ports in New York Boston Philadelphia ,etc.....& New Orleans was it's largest hub.
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 5/24/17 at 5:18 pm to sugar71
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& New Orleans was it's largest hub.
Link to New Orleans being the largest slave market in the US or point of entry.
I've always understood it to be Charleston as well.
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