re: The problem with illegal immigration explained as if you were 5 years old (or a liberal)

1. NO MORE ANCHOR BABIES

2. Temporary work visas for migrants picking crops. After the crop season you go back.

3. Any employer knowingly hiring an illegal. $50,000 fine per illegal per hour worked. ENFORCE IT! Put three or four companies out of business as examples and the others will get in compliance really quick.

4. Illegal and get caught.
First offense: Free ride back home.
Second offense: Three years jail where you will work 6 days per week on rebuilding our infrastructure.
Third offense: Ten years same as above.
Fourth offense: Life, or until you are too old and crippled to work. Then you get dumped at the border.

5. Existing illegals can turn themselves in and be voluntarily deported. Anchor babies must return with their parents. You will then be allowed to get in line and apply for citizenship the legal way.

6. Border security: Walls, guns, land mines, or crocodiles dumped into the Rio Grande. WHATEVER THE HELL IT TAKES!

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ou are going about this the wrong way. The liberals will chime in that the no tax saga can be solved by legalizing them. Then what do you say?

Well, you cut to the chase at that point. This country's economy is destined to be split into the haves and have nots if we continue to allow low-skilled illiterate people to migrate across our borders and milk our system dry, simply because they are from Mexico or Guatemala or El Salvador or Nicaragua.

Maybe Americans desire a policy of allowing citizenship to those more deserving and with a bigger upside than a lifetime of low skills, crime and government dependency?

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First of all most pay taxes...and social security which they never see a dime of....but for the ones who do not you are absolutely correct...making them legal removes their only attraction...their employers ability to exploit their status. Remove that potential and all you have are low skill workers who do not speak the language, for the most part, and whose work ethic is not at all what it is cracked up to be (when someone is working for $10 they "appear" to be doing more than someone working for $15 because they are costing less). Illegal workers and even recent immigrant workers do not have the self assurance that comes with being "permament" and when something happens they do nothing until the boss comes along and corrects it....they may evenb e afraid to contact the boss and let them know and will merely wait for hours until someone in charge shows up and corrects whatever minor problem they have encountererd. This means the must be constantly supervised. And finally the quality of work is not comparable...the only thing that is attractive is their status and its expolitabilty. Take that away and they really are not that pretty to employers.

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Well, you cut to the chase at that point. This country's economy is destined to be split into the haves and have nots if we continue to allow low-skilled illiterate people to migrate across our borders and milk our system dry,

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First of all they are no more "milking the system dry" than any other immigrant group who has ever came to this country...they are adding to the economy. They are not a net drain on the economy.

Second of all this country's economy has always been based on haves and have nots. We have ALWAYS depended on low skill illiterate people to make some of us piles of money...there is nothing more American than exploiting poor, desperate people who are in no position to complain. Some of you are going to poo-poo this but this is one of the major attractions of this nation...that anyone willing to can come here and make a fortune using any manner of low wage workers....from slaves to european immigrants to latinos there is nothing new here...and lazy assed hateful american born citizens have always bitched and whined about it. Since when are haves and have-nots not the most American thing ever???

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1. NO MORE ANCHOR BABIES

2. Temporary work visas for migrants picking crops. After the crop season you go back.

3. Any employer knowingly hiring an illegal. $50,000 fine per illegal per hour worked. ENFORCE IT! Put three or four companies out of business as examples and the others will get in compliance really quick.

4. Illegal and get caught.
First offense: Free ride back home.
Second offense: Three years jail where you will work 6 days per week on rebuilding our infrastructure.
Third offense: Ten years same as above.
Fourth offense: Life, or until you are too old and crippled to work. Then you get dumped at the border.

5. Existing illegals can turn themselves in and be voluntarily deported. Anchor babies must return with their parents. You will then be allowed to get in line and apply for citizenship the legal way.

6. Border security: Walls, guns, land mines, or crocodiles dumped into the Rio Grande. WHATEVER THE HELL IT TAKES!

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Yes, I'm okay with locking repeat offenders in jail and making them work on our infrastructure.

They used to call it hard labor. You can call it whatever you want.

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So it is ok for them to work, thus taking away jobs and being a drain on the economy but it is bad idea to allow them to work, take away jobs and contribute to the economy....now that is some fricking brilliant thinking right there!!!

You can't make this shite up...there has never been a writer of fiction who could come up with as convoluted an idea as locking people up for basically working for less money....WOW...

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You can't make this shite up...there has never been a writer of fiction who could come up with as convoluted an idea as locking people up for basically working for less money....WOW...

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Sneaking across the border repeatedly is a crime repeatedly.

That isn't "basically working for less money".

I knew there'd be liberals in this thread justifying illegal immigration. If they ever get power again I guess they will run on throwing the borders wide open again. The idea that people would sell out the country just to get more votes to get the shite ideas they can't get now is disgusting.

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Who hires juan? Put them in jail 30 days.

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Yep. Federal law makes it illegal to hire illegal aliens.

If politicians were serious about stopping illegal immigration (they aren't), they would insist on prosecuting every farmer, contractor, restaurant, meat packer, etc. that hires illegals. We never hear of that happening.

Instead, they talk shot about building a wall and similar bullshite. That's just to get the votes of the morons and suckers, while the fat cats keep getting rich off of the cheap labor they are addicted to.

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John only bringing in 36k supporting a family of four definitely qualifies him for free money

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I really don't know, however he would receive less money than Juan, would he not? AND, the money would be coming from Americans going TO Americans. Americans who would be struggling to feed his family legally.

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NO MORE ANCHOR BABIES

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The thing about anchor babies...we are made to feel sympathy for them because it would be cruel to send them to Mexico when they were born here and only know the United States. However, it isn't us that created this problem, it is their parents.
by allowing anchor babies, and by extension their parents stay in the country you are giving illegals incentive to come into our country and have babies. If they have children they automatically get to stay even though they came into the country illegally. Illegal immigration is one of the few crimes we actually reward the person for breaking the law.

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So it is ok for them to work, thus taking away jobs and being a drain on the economy but it is bad idea to allow them to work, take away jobs and contribute to the economy....now that is some fricking brilliant thinking right there!!!

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Almost as good as having a law saying they cannot illegally enter our country...but if they break the law and enter the country anyway, we make them legal? Is that like....it's illegal to rob a bank, but if you insist on robbing said bank you can keep the money? talk about making perfect sense.

Name me a country that has no immigration laws. Then name me one country that once their laws are broken, they allow the lawbreaker access to becoming a citizen.