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re: The problem with illegal immigration explained as if you were 5 years old (or a liberal)

Posted on 5/20/17 at 10:22 am to
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 10:22 am to
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Borders have never been wide open,
We have 11 million illegal immigrants in our country. That is wide open? I would be willing to guess we have more illegal immigration from Mexico in a single year than we have legal immigration from any other country in the world.

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illegal immigration has been declining steadily for years

Can you provide a link?

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and folks don't cross the border to vote they cross for jobs.

I don't care why the cross the border if they are doing it illegally.

Why should I work?

I've got 15 kids..someones got to pay for me and my kids!
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 10:25 am to
If there were no welfare, id have zero problems with immigration
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 10:26 am to
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Are taxes not punishment enough?


So we deserve the same punishment the illegals do? Am I reading you right? Don't you pay taxes? I do! And I am here legally.

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Look at it as a way to pay off a few trillion in debt

It won't pay off crap. If they are not coming here legally, they certainly will not pay taxes legally.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 10:28 am to
I keep asking this and nobody seems to be able to answer. Name a country that has no immigration laws.
Every developed country has them. Why, do you suppose?
Posted by Balloon Huffer
Member since Sep 2010
3421 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 10:30 am to
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one thing though, affirmative action does not exist. and it definitely does not mean EEO.


Chances are very high you have never been in a position of leadership in corporate America.

Not only does AA exist, there are LAWS that make it super beneficial to hire minorities over whites. I have personally been forced to promote the less qualified applicant to a leadership position to meet the status quo -- countless times.

We truly need to switch this "privilege" nonsense to where it belongs, minority privilege. I can actually PROVE this exists - in countless ways, in addition to this OP.

The minority advantages in corporate America are ridiculous. Do you need to fire someone??? White male - who fricking cares - peace out son! Black Female -- good fricking luck. I hope you have about a year's worth of documentation, with performance improvement plans, numerous warnings, write ups, co-worker testimony, video evidence, -- point is, you better have every single I dotted and T crossed.

That is one super quick example, I could go on for hours, but I won't.


This post was edited on 5/21/17 at 6:41 pm
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23559 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 10:30 am to
I see no one wants to answer the question...
Posted by HeadCoach
Shady's Parking Lot
Member since Mar 2009
5659 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 10:34 am to
You forgot, I am super scared of brown people. But I think you did mention, "they takin orr Jobz!!!" IDK I didn't really look at that dumb cartoon yall use for indoctrinating your poor kids
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48296 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 12:13 pm to
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Actually, the solution is they have until the end of the year to get the frick out.

Any illegal caught in the USA after that will be IMMEDIATELY deported and will NEVER qualify for any legal status of Any kind in the USA in the future. If caught again, immediate imprisonment.

There's your notice and your due process. Now get the frick out.


So a program that won't work and will costs millions.

Are you sure you aren't a democrat?
Posted by Skeezer
Member since Apr 2017
2296 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 12:18 pm to
Juan does pay taxes.
Would be nice if he were on the grid and paid income.

But he pays plenty of taxes.

Illegals are a net gain economically. That's just a fact.

And I'm not a liberal. I despise liberals. But I accept facts.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 12:22 pm to
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It won't pay off crap. If they are not coming here legally, they certainly will not pay taxes legally.


Most of them already pay taxes.. that income doesn't show up because the people employing them are criminals. The criminals employing them are the ones who should be removed from society in this situation.. certainly not some poor blue collared immigrant who is just trying to provide for his family.

You can't have realistic immigration reform without throwing these corporate taskmasters in jail.
This post was edited on 5/20/17 at 12:23 pm
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41874 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 2:17 pm to
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Can't blame farmers or construction companies for getting effective workers wherever they can get them. 


Find legal residents instead
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90530 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 3:45 pm to
This should be required in elementary text books
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 4:34 pm to
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I keep asking this and nobody seems to be able to answer. Name a country that has no immigration laws.
Every developed country has them. Why, do you suppose?


How many of those countries are democracies as successful as the U.S?
Posted by AUFanInSoCal
Orange County
Member since Nov 2007
1616 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 5:15 pm to
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Can't blame farmers or construction companies for getting effective workers wherever they can get them.



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Find legal residents instead


They're too expensive and won't do the work. I wonder how much strawberries would cost if we didn't hire illegals or migrants? Eventually the farmers would be forced to automate that effort of harvesting produce. I still think our produce prices would go up 25%.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 5:28 pm to
Anybody that downvotes this deserves a fate worse than AIDS death.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 5:30 pm to
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Sounds like Conservative Jim might tell John Legal he should pull himself up by his bootstraps, learn a trade, and earn one of the many higher paying jobs that are all but closed off to illegals. Stop being a victim and looking to the government to solve all your problems.



Sounds like someone needs to walk into oncoming traffic.
Posted by Hog Zealot
On the Flats
Member since Mar 2012
1626 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 5:31 pm to
Oh noes 25%. Literally shaking.

That head of lettuce cost me a few extra nickels. That tub of strawberries added 50 cents.

I would pay extra 25% on all produce to ensure American jobs or automation.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 5:33 pm to
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one thing though, affirmative action does not exist.


Jesus Christ your daddy wasted his money on that Texas A&M education.
Posted by AUFanInSoCal
Orange County
Member since Nov 2007
1616 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 5:36 pm to
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I would pay extra 25% on all produce to ensure American jobs or automation.


I would too. Assuming they don't all rot in the fields first.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41874 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 8:46 pm to
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They're too expensive and won't do the work. I wonder how much strawberries would cost if we didn't hire illegals or migrants?


You're under the assumption there aren't any legal peeps working now.

Someone would do the work...they cost us more in the long run & I couldn't care less about paying a little more for goods.
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