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re: The problem with illegal immigration explained as if you were 5 years old (or a liberal)
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:40 pm to Paradiddler
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:40 pm to Paradiddler
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Off of the govt tit - refer to the OP.
Honestly the fact you think of the simplistic image in the OP as some sort of credible authority says more about you then the other person.
Millions of those immigrants not only spend their earned money here, they end up paying income taxes too.
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Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:42 pm to SavageOrangeJug
You racists can GFYs.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:49 pm to bonhoeffer45
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glaring things that low-IQ graphic misses, Juan is in the country, paying sales taxes, and of the 11.1 million here, roughly 8 million are employed, and roughly 3.4 million pay taxes every year.
If Juan has kids born on US soil tax payers are buying a lot of his food, paying for his children's healthcare, and a portion of his rent.
8 million are employed and less than half are paying taxes?
You lay that out there like it's a good thing but we're the low IQ folks.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:51 pm to buccaneer88
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You racists can GFYs.
Yeah, nobody gives a shite about being called a racist over every little thing. Your race card has been declined.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:56 pm to Pinecone Repair
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8 million are employed and less than half are paying taxes?
You lay that out there like it's a good thing but we're the low IQ folks
Don't think you will find me saying the current situation is ideal, so we can drop that nonsense right now.
Clearly many work under the table and are not paying income taxes, but will be paying sales taxes and other indirect consumption taxes. That discretion is a problem for a number of reasons. You can deal with that in a number of ways. Some way more reasonable then others.
But an onslaught of low-IQ framings of the problem that lead to things like the OP clamoring for turrets and walls that don't actually address the biggest problem doesn't help anything.
This post was edited on 5/19/17 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:57 pm to buccaneer88
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You racists
Like clockwork.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:58 pm to Paradiddler
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Off of the govt tit - refer to the OP
Both john and Juan would be receiving government money
John only bringing in 36k supporting a family of four definitely qualifies him for free money
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:02 pm to SavageOrangeJug
Illegal immigration costs us well over 100 billion dollars a year and that is money that is being stolen from the american economy and our wallets and people who aid and abet that criminal act are despicable and low character people.
It's the only reason why I haven't completely disowned Jeff Sessions as AG and why I want the wall to discourage any future administration reverting back to the same open borders bullshite that Trump was elected to fix and also to help prevent illegal border crossings and help CBP round up whatever does get past the wall.
It's the only reason why I haven't completely disowned Jeff Sessions as AG and why I want the wall to discourage any future administration reverting back to the same open borders bullshite that Trump was elected to fix and also to help prevent illegal border crossings and help CBP round up whatever does get past the wall.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:14 pm to SavageOrangeJug
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I'm in favor of 50 cal machine gun nests every 500 yards with land mines in between.
It creates jobs and security...
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:55 pm to bonhoeffer45
Juan is the one getting screwed over, paying taxes he'll never see.
But enjoy your little cartoon.
But enjoy your little cartoon.
This post was edited on 5/19/17 at 11:56 pm
Posted on 5/20/17 at 12:02 am to Pinecone Repair
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8 million are employed and less than half are paying taxes?
That lines up with the claim that more than half of illegals don't pay taxes but still file income tax returns to get tax credits (I'm guessing for their nine ninos), gaming the system.
Remember that you can file an income tax return without a Social Security number, you use a Tax ID number.
This post was edited on 5/20/17 at 12:05 am
Posted on 5/20/17 at 12:05 am to TejasHorn
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Juan is the one getting screwed over, paying taxes he'll never see.
But enjoy your little cartoon.
Juan is the one enjoying all the free benefits while he sends a portion of his untaxed income to Mexico, but enjoy your melt bad hombre.
Posted on 5/20/17 at 12:55 am to SavageOrangeJug
Taxation is theft.
Posted on 5/20/17 at 12:57 am to bonhoeffer45
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Everything being spoken of in here, it seems like the problem is employers?
Oh good lord.
This is the worst point of all time. THE PROBLEM IS THE WELFARE STATE*.
*taxation is theft
This post was edited on 5/20/17 at 12:58 am
Posted on 5/20/17 at 6:07 am to buccaneer88
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You racists can GFYs.
No, no need to frick ourselves. We'll just go to a whorehouse that the human traffickers have set up forcing illegal women to work in.
You valiant SJWs never want to talk about the seedy underbelly of illegal immigration. Those who are used and abused by their own people for profit.
Posted on 5/20/17 at 7:03 am to SavageOrangeJug
So this thread has gone for four pages and there has been little in the way of talk of solutions outside of turning the border into a rifle range.
There are somewhere between 8-11 million illegal immigrants already in the US for whom border security is a moot point and we are currently experiencing emigration so locking down the border probably isn't close to the best solution. Massive deportation would cost billions and would do little to move the needle on immigration numbers. So what is the answer?
For my money:
1) Give all illegals residing in the US one year to register with INS in exchange for upgrading their status to a Non-Citizen Resident. NCRs will be issued a tax-ID number and given permission to work legally in the country. NCR status will not be given to any person convicted of a felony.
After ten years, if the NCR has not committed any crimes and is fully paid up on taxes, they receive citizenship.
2) At the close of the one year registration period, all federal subsidies, including money allocated for education, will be prohibited from being spent on any person residing in the US illegally. This will be way more effective in detering illegal immigration than any wall and it will actually save money instead of spend it.
3) Make true immigration reforms to decrease the amount of time needed to obtain full citizenship status and recommit the Visa program to attracting highly skilled foreigners to US jobs.
There are somewhere between 8-11 million illegal immigrants already in the US for whom border security is a moot point and we are currently experiencing emigration so locking down the border probably isn't close to the best solution. Massive deportation would cost billions and would do little to move the needle on immigration numbers. So what is the answer?
For my money:
1) Give all illegals residing in the US one year to register with INS in exchange for upgrading their status to a Non-Citizen Resident. NCRs will be issued a tax-ID number and given permission to work legally in the country. NCR status will not be given to any person convicted of a felony.
After ten years, if the NCR has not committed any crimes and is fully paid up on taxes, they receive citizenship.
2) At the close of the one year registration period, all federal subsidies, including money allocated for education, will be prohibited from being spent on any person residing in the US illegally. This will be way more effective in detering illegal immigration than any wall and it will actually save money instead of spend it.
3) Make true immigration reforms to decrease the amount of time needed to obtain full citizenship status and recommit the Visa program to attracting highly skilled foreigners to US jobs.
Posted on 5/20/17 at 7:06 am to Masterag
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one thing though, affirmative action does not exist. and it definitely does not mean EEO.
I hope you are kidding because if not this is looney tunes
Posted on 5/20/17 at 7:08 am to buccaneer88
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You racists can GFYs.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
looks like the good guys won this thread
Posted on 5/20/17 at 7:16 am to Antonio Moss
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So this thread has gone for four pages and there has been little in the way of talk of solutions outside of turning the border into a rifle range.
Good. You admit you're an idiot with reading comprehension issues.
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1) Give all illegals residing in the US one year to register with INS in exchange for upgrading their status to a Non-Citizen Resident. NCRs will be issued a tax-ID number and given permission to work legally in the country. NCR status will not be given to any person convicted of a felony.
After ten years, if the NCR has not committed any crimes and is fully paid up on taxes, they receive citizenship.
RIGHT!!!! Reward them for breaking our immigration laws to start with. That will keep them in their own country.
Posted on 5/20/17 at 7:20 am to bonhoeffer45
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Sounds like Conservative Jim might tell John Legal he should pull himself up by his bootstraps, learn a trade, and earn one of the many higher paying jobs that are all but closed off to illegals. Stop being a victim and looking to the government to solve all your problems.
There you have it, ladies and gentlemen! It is the hard working mans fault. He deserves to have everything taken from him. Why am I not surprised?
OR, we could keep illegals out of the country. Can you name a single country that has no immigration laws and allows people to come in and leave at will?
This post was edited on 5/20/17 at 7:21 am
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