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re: Should Poor people have "Less Vote" than Rich people?

Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30168 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:18 pm to
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If you can't see how completely fricking racist this train of thought is then I have no hope for you.



Actually I would argue that your above statement is entirely more racist than the OP.

That aside, I don't think voting should be "rich vs poor".

Although if the majority of your income is government benefits (aka: Taxpayer costs), then I'm not sure how you should have equal say as someone who is actually contributing to society.

I don't own property (more specifically real estate), so why should I be able to vote on the raising/lowering of property tax?

Why should a family receiving food stamps, welfare, completely subsidized healthcare, etc... be able to say "Hell yeah, I vote to increase that"?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35473 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:18 pm to
Another day in bizarro world, AKA the poliboard.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64412 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:18 pm to
Then let the renters buy the land and then they can have the right to a vote.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30168 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:21 pm to
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Then let the renters buy the land and then they can have the right to a vote.


Yeah no. I can understand if you don't want me voting on property tax and the like, and I'm ok with that since I don't own "land".

However, if you are going to tell me I can't vote at all because I don't own property, then you have no right to take my thousands of dollars in taxes every year.

This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 1:24 pm
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10038 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:22 pm to
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Then let the renters buy the land and then they can have the right to a vote.

Again, you don't own the land outright, so why should you get the vote?

Anything that is leveraged is not really yours.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35473 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:22 pm to
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Then let the renters buy the land and then they can have the right to a vote.

You just eliminated 90% of the military. Good plan.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

Another day in bizarro world, AKA the poliboard.


You should only be worried if it starts to look normal to you.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10590 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:28 pm to
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1. Land owning male, 21 or older who pays taxes.

quote:

If that described you, then you've actually got real skin in the game and thus should have the right to vote. Everyone else should shut their pie hole.



I swear, some of you are either just really short-sighted, don't completely think before hitting "submit," or are just overall nuts.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:29 pm to
Can't believe some of this shite and I actually agree with some people here on other issues
This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 1:29 pm
Posted by LSUandAU
Key West, FL & Malibu (L.A.), CA
Member since Apr 2009
4948 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:29 pm to
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Then let the renters buy the land and then they can have the right to a vote.




Dude...really...come-on! Close your laptop!


Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26078 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:31 pm to
They already do. In the form of campaign donations and lobbying.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64412 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:31 pm to
I swear some of you run your pie holes about original intent of our founding fathers but when someone actually presents you with one of their real views you lose your fricking minds. You're progressives and you don't even know it.
This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 1:32 pm
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69899 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:33 pm to
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Darth_Vader


Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:34 pm to
So the whole 3/5ths thing was a good idea?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:34 pm to
Saved that one for future use.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:34 pm to
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I swear some of you run your pie holes about original intent of our founding fathers but when someone actually presents you with one of their real views you lose your fricking minds. You're progressives and you don't even know it.


Voting rights are addressed by amendments, the courts, and laws on the books. It's never going to change. The founders are dead, so they can't do anything about it.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30168 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:34 pm to
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I swear some of you run your pie holes about original intent of our founding fathers but when someone actually presents you with one of their real views you lose your fricking minds. You're progressives and you don't even know it.


I would be interested to hear your thoughts on my assertion about taking thousands of dollars of tax revenue from individuals who don't own "land"

Are you ok with taking thousands of dollars from a taxpaying citizen but not allowing them the right to vote?

OR

Would you not allow them to vote, BUT allow them to keep their thousands of dollars in taxes every year?
This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 1:36 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64412 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:36 pm to
We're talking voting rights here. Not census methods.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:36 pm to
First option sounds a lot like taxation without representation to me.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10590 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

I swear some of you run your pie holes about original intent of our founding fathers but when someone actually presents you with one of their real views you lose your fricking minds. You're progressives and you don't even know it.



I think message boards might not be for you, big guy.
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