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Personal Stories of ACA in WV, powerful article
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:00 am
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:00 am
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[quote]Tug River Health Association treats about 8,700 patients, resulting in some 20,000 visits a year to its five clinics. In 2016, 12,284 of those visits were from patients on Medicaid, up from 5,674 in 2013, before the ACA took effect here. Without the ACA, many of those patients wouldn’t be able to afford care. Will they soon lose their coverage? Will they stop coming to the clinic? Lately, Tug River’s chief executive has been telling his staff, “The key word going forward is uncertainty.”[quote]
This is a long piece but well worth the read. This really took me out of my DC perspective and reminded me of my upbringing in North Louisiana.
Politics aside, these people are vulnerable and need help. We can disagree on how, but we all need to step back sometimes and realize that real people are going to be effected by this new healthcare law.
[quote]Tug River Health Association treats about 8,700 patients, resulting in some 20,000 visits a year to its five clinics. In 2016, 12,284 of those visits were from patients on Medicaid, up from 5,674 in 2013, before the ACA took effect here. Without the ACA, many of those patients wouldn’t be able to afford care. Will they soon lose their coverage? Will they stop coming to the clinic? Lately, Tug River’s chief executive has been telling his staff, “The key word going forward is uncertainty.”[quote]
This is a long piece but well worth the read. This really took me out of my DC perspective and reminded me of my upbringing in North Louisiana.
Politics aside, these people are vulnerable and need help. We can disagree on how, but we all need to step back sometimes and realize that real people are going to be effected by this new healthcare law.
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:02 am to tigerinDC09
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We can disagree on how, but we all need to step back sometimes and realize that real people are going to be effected by this new healthcare law.
Thanks for the reminder. The 400% premium increase and 250% increase in deductible over the last few years didn't do enough to remind me.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:03 am to tigerinDC09
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northfork, w.va. — Another morning, another list of patients and problems in the hands of 35-year-old Keisha Saunders. Diabetes, depression, heart disease. Robert needs lower blood pressure. Buffy needs prescriptions filled. Mary needs to lose 50 pounds, so she can get what she really needs, a new hip.
That's where I stopped. We're subsidizing people's poor choices. They aren't bearing the costs of their own decisions. In psychological terms, we're enabling.
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 9:04 am
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:04 am to tigerinDC09
quote:it sounds like they still can't
Tug River Health Association treats about 8,700 patients, resulting in some 20,000 visits a year to its five clinics. In 2016, 12,284 of those visits were from patients on Medicaid, up from 5,674 in 2013, before the ACA took effect here. Without the ACA, many of those patients wouldn’t be able to afford care.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:04 am to tigerinDC09
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Without the ACA, many of those patients wouldn’t be able to afford care. Will they soon lose their coverage? Will they stop coming to the clinic? Lately, Tug River’s chief executive has been telling his staff, “The key word going forward is uncertainty.”
pre-melting before you even know what's in the damn bill is ridiculous.
Also it's "affect" not "effect"
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:05 am to tigerinDC09
quote:That explains a lot....
reminded me of my upbringing in North Louisiana
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:06 am to rmc
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Thanks for the reminder. The 400% premium increase and 250% increase in deductible over the last few years didn't do enough to remind me.
That's the essence of this important debate.
Is the premium increase and deductible increase worth the healthcare of the people highlighted in this piece?
I tend to know which way this board leans on that answer, but when it is made into personal stories like these, minds tend to change.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:06 am to tigerinDC09
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Is the premium increase and deductible increase worth the healthcare of the people highlighted in this piece?
Given the outcomes of Medicaid treatment, probably not.
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 9:09 am
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:07 am to crazycubes
I know personal stories of people who lost coverage for themselves and their families because of Obamacare. They couldnt afford the hiked premiums/deductibles. Why don't THOSE people, of whom there are many, matter?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:08 am to tigerinDC09
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when it is made into personal stories like these, minds tend to change
Typical. Going for an emotional response.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:08 am to The Pirate King
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pre-melting before you even know what's in the damn bill is ridiculous.
So people can't make judgments based on the bill as it stands now?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:09 am to rumproast
They're probably white middle class families. Boring.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:10 am to the808bass
Exactly.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:11 am to the808bass
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That's where I stopped. We're subsidizing people's poor choices. They aren't bearing the costs of their own decisions. In psychological terms, we're enabling.
This is a fundamental view on what and how government should treat the poor and quite clarifying.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:12 am to tigerinDC09
I'm long past falling for the sentimental bullshite. Obama spoiled that for you guys.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:12 am to tigerinDC09
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We can disagree on how, but we all need to step back sometimes and realize that real people are going to be effected by this new healthcare law.
I'm effected alright...my premium is up 50% and my deductible has more than doubled. So please, tell me more how good this law is.
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 9:14 am
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:12 am to tigerinDC09
The Feds giveth, but they also take things away.
Look at the out of work coal miner. First Obama forces the coal mines out of business, and workers lose their jobs with insurance coverage, but then he comes in like a white knight to give them health insurance.
That's what the left wants, more people depending on government.
Meanwhile middle class folk have their insurance premiums rise along with their deductibles to the point where they don't go to the doctor unless things are really bad because the first 10K in expenses is on them.
All this free healthcare the govt. takes credit for isn't really free, Real Americans pay for it in taxes and in higher insurance rates.
Look at the out of work coal miner. First Obama forces the coal mines out of business, and workers lose their jobs with insurance coverage, but then he comes in like a white knight to give them health insurance.
That's what the left wants, more people depending on government.
Meanwhile middle class folk have their insurance premiums rise along with their deductibles to the point where they don't go to the doctor unless things are really bad because the first 10K in expenses is on them.
All this free healthcare the govt. takes credit for isn't really free, Real Americans pay for it in taxes and in higher insurance rates.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:13 am to tigerinDC09
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Is the premium increase and deductible increase worth the healthcare of the people highlighted in this piece?
I tend to know which way this board leans on that answer, but when it is made into personal stories like these, minds tend to change.
I guess maybe I'm in the minority to think something should be done for both groups impacted. Why do we insist on pitting one against the other? It's basically a poor vs. middle class showdown.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:13 am to rumproast
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I know personal stories of people who lost coverage for themselves and their families because of Obamacare. They couldnt afford the hiked premiums/deductibles. Why don't THOSE people, of whom there are many, matter?
They absolutely matter.
This story is about the poor in rural WV.
Send me a story about the middle class people who died b/c of Obamacare and I'll read and we can discuss as well.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:14 am to tigerinDC09
quote:Not to me.
Is the premium increase and deductible increase worth the healthcare of the people highlighted in this piece?
quote:Nope, still dgaf
I tend to know which way this board leans on that answer, but when it is made into personal stories like these, minds tend to change.
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