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re: "Penalties Against Possession of A Drug Should Be No More Damaging Than The Drug Itself"

Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:41 am to
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:41 am to
Ya. I mean I maybe smoke weed 2-3x per year
And I did so in Colorado last summer. It clearly was A safe experience and the prices were fair
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:45 am to
I can get much more weed for 20 dollars than I could for 50 where it is illegal. I don't even smoke it. I dilute concentrated THC to a very low concentration which helps me with back pain. I don't have to take opoids that way.
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 10:46 am
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:49 am to
Indeed man. I'd love to have access to a product such as that one.. nothing better for joint/muscle pain
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55634 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:58 am to
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Dale51

I am having a hard time deciphering your argument.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 11:02 am to
Basically well always be criminalizing black people?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260547 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 11:04 am to
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Basically well always be criminalizing black people?

What the hell?
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31499 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:35 am to
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So, are you denying what he said? It doesn't look like it. It looks like you are deflecting. Look at the OP and his statement.


The burden of proof is on you weirdos to show me deaths caused by pot. Please do and we can discuss.

And whatever figures you conjure pail (pale--hooked on fonix) in comparison to legal substances such as alcohol. And controlled but legal Rx drugs, even used according to Rx. And I would venture to guess OTC cold meds. I would be so bold as to guess that more people have died in car accidents lighting or trying to throw out tobacco cigs than from driving "high on weed."

Are you going to deny this? Deflect? Show me your state-manufactured stats.

And really this is besides the point. I don't see people advocating legalizing driving under the influence. Deflect away my red herring fishies.
This post was edited on 6/25/17 at 11:35 am
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:44 am to
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I am having a hard time deciphering your argument.


Which one..."speeding".."parallel to alcohol"..."legal does not mean free of government regs"
Can you be more specific?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:49 am to
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The burden of proof is on you weirdos to show me deaths caused by pot. Please do and we can discuss.


Statistics that have not been compiled can not be evaluated.
Do you think someone stoned on pot is a save driver compared to someone drunk?

Using your logic the burden of proof is on the pro pot weirdos to show that pot is safer than alcohol in high consumption levels.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26962 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:56 am to
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So instead I'm forced to drink alcohol, take xanex, ambien, Adderall, coffee, and nicotine all of which are dangerous when used improperly and atleast 3 of which are extremely addictive.



You're "forced" to use alcohol and nicotine? Are you really this fricking stupid, or do you just think everyone else is?
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31499 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:57 am to
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Using your logic the burden of proof is on the pro pot weirdos to show that pot is safer than alcohol in high consumption levels.



ok?

also, i'm not "pro-pot." Rather, I'm pro-freedom and pro rational laws.
This post was edited on 6/25/17 at 9:49 am
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:57 am to
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I can get much more weed for 20 dollars than I could for 50 where it is illegal.


From a legal distributor? In your state, is manufacture and sales legal?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260547 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:59 am to
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pro pot weirdos to show that pot is safer than alcohol in high consumption levels.


Jesus Christ...
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26962 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:59 am to
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Are you suggesting that speeding isn't a cause of traffic accidents?

No..I'm not. I'm claiming that it is not a significant cause.



Then you're an idiot.
Posted by Manlaw35
Member since Jan 2013
1302 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 9:07 am to
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Kids that get hooked on marijuana become violent adults


I don't know about violent but they definitely become annoying adults.
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 9:09 am to
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While politicians babble about morality, gateways into a darker path, and safeguarding communities, it's all complete and total nonsense.


Most politicians care nothing about that aspect of it. The Drug War is a cash cow and assists in trampling constitutional rights that would normally take a little effort to circumvent.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 9:48 am to
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Jesus Christ...


Rock solid argument you make there.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 9:53 am to
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Then you're an idiot.


You have nothing to back the claim that it does. Most accidents..I would guess..are caused by distractions, impairment by various drugs, bad judgement, inattentive driving, falling asleep behind the wheel etc. None of which have a direct connection to speeding.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 2:24 pm to
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The burden of proof is on you weirdos to show me deaths caused by pot. Please do and we can discuss.


Weirdos? ok. How's this?

Study suggests link between legal weed and spike in car accidents

quote:

And whatever figures you conjure pail (pale--hooked on fonix) in comparison to legal substances such as alcohol.


So, for you it is not problem to add to those numbers?
Besides, we aren't talking about the legal thing that cause accidents, are we? Hence, my reference to deflecting.

quote:

Are you going to deny this? Deflect? Show me your state-manufactured stats.


State manufactured? no. A study done by an independent group. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it is false.

quote:

And really this is besides the point. I don't see people advocating legalizing driving under the influence.


You are the one deflecting, because the point of the OP is a quote...see the OP?


"Penalties Against Possession of A Drug Should Be No More Damaging Than The Drug Itself"

People have been killed because of almost every drug at one time or other. He was staying within the parameters of the OP....you are the one going off on a tangent.

ETA
In short, Jimmy Carter is an idiot. (That's who made the quote that this thread is about)
This post was edited on 6/25/17 at 2:31 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/25/17 at 2:29 pm to
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The answer would then be 'death'.


<--still alive.

guess who else is still alive:



your move
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