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re: "Penalties Against Possession of A Drug Should Be No More Damaging Than The Drug Itself"

Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:48 am to
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:48 am to
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Thousands of kids have died over the years from potheads driving around "high".

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A the Reefer Madness crowd is putting in hours this am. Gotta punch that statist clock.


So, are you denying what he said? It doesn't look like it. It looks like you are deflecting. Look at the OP and his statement.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260562 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:51 am to
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shouldn't heroine, cocaine, meth also be legal?


Yes
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:52 am to
Why does the GOP pick and choose what we are allowed to do with our bodies?

Weed (no way)
Cigarettes (kill yourself)
Alcohol (BRB alcoholic)
Abortion (don't even think about it)
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:54 am to
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We lost the murder war at leased 10,000 years ago. Let's legalize it and tax it.
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What does this mean?


The argument being made is thta we lost the drug war, so we should legalize it and tax it.

Hi point is, no law is obeyed. None. Every law on the books is being broken, so why not make all of them legal and tax them? He is pointing out how dumb the argument is that the drug war is lost, so we should make drugs legal.

And he's right. Making that argument is dumb.
Posted by Gnar Cat21
Piña Coladaburg
Member since Sep 2009
16840 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:54 am to
I agree with your general idea. Government shouldn't tell you what to do with your body, but...

Why do democrats believe I don't have the right to not insure my body without incurring a tax?
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:55 am to
I think that's bs too, fwiw
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260562 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:56 am to
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Why does the GOP pick and choose what we are allowed to do with our bodies?


Both parties
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:58 am to
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Why does the GOP pick and choose what we are allowed to do with our bodies?

Weed (no way)
Cigarettes (kill yourself)
Alcohol (BRB alcoholic)
Abortion (don't even think about it)


Are you arguing that people have had control of their bodies?

Does that mean Heroine meth etc should be legalized?
If you want complete control over your body, then you have to accept complete control over your body.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:01 am to
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More than weed


You change the subject. My reply was in context of the comment along the lines of "So should speeding result in a death sentence?"


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Almost everyone speeds by driving over 55 or 65 or 75mph.



And?



The number of people driving..and speeding, has little to do with the cause of traffic accidents.

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That's just human nature.



So is getting high.


And?
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:02 am to
Yes it all should be legalized

Legal limits of consumption just like with alcohol
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:03 am to
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Yes

How about manufacturing and selling the product you made?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:03 am to
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The number of people driving..and speeding, has little to do with the cause of traffic accidents.



Are you suggesting that speeding isn't a cause of traffic accidents?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:10 am to
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Legal limits of consumption just like with alcohol


If you want to use alcohol as a parallel, then you have the same regulation and government involvement. ALL aspects of alcohol production methods, production standards, licensing requirements, control of the active ingredients, allowed percentage of active ingredient, storage, transfer of product, etc, etc would have to be included in the "just treat it like alcohol" shtick.
Do you really want that level of government involvement, when now pot is seen as a very low priority to law enforcement? Be careful what you wish for...you just may get it.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:15 am to
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If you want to use alcohol as a parallel, then you have the same regulation and government involvement. ALL aspects of alcohol production methods, production standards, licensing requirements, control of the active ingredients, allowed percentage of active ingredient, storage, transfer of product, etc, etc would have to be included in the "just treat it like alcohol" shtick.
Do you really want that level of government involvement, when now pot is seen as a very low priority to law enforcement? Be careful what you wish for...you just may get it.


What exactly is bad about that? I live in a state where weed is legalized, and having a clear process where ingredients are labelled and I know exactly what I'm getting is why legal weed is superior than buying it from a dealer. I can even buy vials of concentrated THC and dilute it to the exact concentration I want.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:22 am to
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Are you suggesting that speeding isn't a cause of traffic accidents?

No..I'm not. I'm claiming that it is not a significant cause.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:23 am to
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No..I'm not. I'm claiming that it is not a significant cause.



The data suggests that a third of all traffic related fatalities are speeding related.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:25 am to
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What exactly is bad about that? I live in a state where weed is legalized, and having a clear process where ingredients are labelled and I know exactly what I'm getting is why legal weed is superior than buying it from a dealer. .


I think that apples to oranges to what most people dream of as it being "legalized". In your state, where it is legal, you have to go to government sanctioned suppliers and their price is quite high. I think most people who want it legalized what it to be like planting a garden..."whatever I plant and how much is MY business".
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260562 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:27 am to
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Does that mean Heroine meth etc should be legalized?


Yes
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260562 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:28 am to

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The number of people driving..and speeding, has little to do with the cause of traffic accidents.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:30 am to
The weed here is much cheaper now that it is legalized. I can get 20 mints, each of which are stronger than a joint, as well as safer, for much cheaper than what an eighth costs where weed is still illegal.
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