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re: "Penalties Against Possession of A Drug Should Be No More Damaging Than The Drug Itself"
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:16 am to Mr.Perfect
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:16 am to Mr.Perfect
quote:
Thousands of kids have died over the years from potheads driving around "high".
That's simply not true. The real killer is alcohol.
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:17 am to cwill
i love the argument that an unrelated act (smoking weed in your house or out and about as a pedestrian) should be illegal because an act that is already illegal (driving while intoxicated) should be illegal
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:20 am to SlowFlowPro
The problem is that there is no "reliable" test for weed intoxication ("reliable" because the breathalyzer is sketchy at best for alcohol) Plus potheads conceal their crime by using eye drops that bleach their eyes concealing the tell tale signs of intoxication
A concession would be to make eye drops behind the counter and regulated like with cough medicine
A concession would be to make eye drops behind the counter and regulated like with cough medicine
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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is the implication that its one vs the other.
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it is, if one is illegal and one is not
The context was to babyfeetz comment here:
quote:)
The responsible use of marijuana causes no harm to society, and should be of no interest to the government in a free society.
Particularly while alcohol is legal to consume (and abuse
The responsible use of alcohol also causes no harm to society. The "one vs the other" is the abuse of alcohol and the responsible use of pot.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:23 am to Dale51
the unreasonable use of pot (ie, driving) is already illegal
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:29 am to cwill
quote:
That's simply not true. The real killer is alcohol.
One being true does not negate the other..i.e. because drunk driving (not alcohol itself) kills a lot of people, does not make the case that driving under any other intoxicant doesn't.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:30 am to el Gaucho
Never change, grouchy
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 9:32 am
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:32 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
love the argument that an unrelated act (smoking weed in your house or out and about as a pedestrian) should be illegal because an act that is already illegal (driving while intoxicated) should be illegal
It's such a stupid argument and it is so widely accepted.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:34 am to Breesus
I love the guy that wakes up, drinks coffee, puts in a dip, pops a xanex and an Adderall, goes to work, smokes cigs, drinks more coffee, pops another xanex and Adderall around 2, come home, takes an oxycotin, has a few beers, pops and ambien to go to sleep and then wakes up and repeats this process everyday and rails against marijuana legalization.
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 9:37 am
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:34 am to SlowFlowPro
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the unreasonable use of pot (ie, driving) is already illegal
As it is with alcohol. What is your point supposed to be, in the context of my reply to babyfeetz?
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:37 am to Breesus
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Breesus
You seem to be okay with the "fact" that those of us that use weed are 'psychotic, kid killing, criminals with unconstrained access to eye-drops'
How can you be so cold and uncaring?
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:37 am to Dale51
bringing up any externality involving driving is stupid
that argument is literally retarded
quote:
the argument that an unrelated act (smoking weed in your house or out and about as a pedestrian) should be illegal because an act that is already illegal (driving while intoxicated) should be illegal
that argument is literally retarded
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:37 am to Womski
Seriously? You are going to quote Jimmy Carter as a voice of reason and clear thinking? 
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:40 am to Bestbank Tiger
quote:
If that's the case, DUI should be a capital offense, not possession.
I've got no problem with that, either. People that can't help themselves and get drunk then get behind the wheel of a car and kill a family? Ok.
But drugs have been killing people for decades...centuries. Certainly Heroine, cocaine, crack, meth...
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:41 am to Breesus
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goes to work
The one thing potheads refuse to do
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:42 am to el Gaucho
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The one thing potheads refuse to do
You had me going for a while.
Nice job trolling. You certainly got ME
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:43 am to cwill
quote:
Thousands of kids have died over the years from potheads driving around "high".
quote:
That's simply not true. The real killer is alcohol.
Your argument is just because more people are killed by DUI that nobody has been killed from driving high?
I think you are wrong. A LOT of people have died from driving high. Not as many had DUI (from being drunk), but that doesn't support your argument at all.
The point people are making is based upon the quote presented in the OP......by Jimmy Carter, of all people.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:43 am to Dale51
quote:
Does speeding cause a lot of accidents?
More than weed
quote:
Almost everyone speeds by driving over 55 or 65 or 75mph.
And?
quote:
That's just human nature.
So is getting high.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:46 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
bringing up any externality involving driving is stupid
How so?
quote:
the argument that an unrelated act (smoking weed in your house or out and about as a pedestrian) should be illegal because an act that is already illegal (driving while intoxicated) should be illegal
that argument is literally retarded
Who is making that argument? Many people have no problem with decriminalization of pot. Making it decriminalized would put it on an even lower priority level that it already is. Legality could created problems that are not needed from such an unimportant issue.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:47 am to Breesus
quote:
love the argument that an unrelated act (smoking weed in your house or out and about as a pedestrian) should be illegal because an act that is already illegal (driving while intoxicated) should be illegal
quote:
It's such a stupid argument and it is so widely accepted.
Using your logic, shouldn't heroine, cocaine, meth also be legal? I mean, people can use those without getting in a car. Why would you say they should be illegal and other illegals not be legal?
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