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re: Obama "Health care isn't expensive just cancel your cable and phone"
Posted on 3/12/14 at 7:21 pm to Big12fan
Posted on 3/12/14 at 7:21 pm to Big12fan
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now it is the law of the land, the American thing to do is to support it
Slavery was at one time the law of the land, women didn't have the right to vote, by law, segregation, homosexuality was illegal was it the American thing to do to support those things...?
I'm just asking...
Posted on 3/12/14 at 7:22 pm to Big12fan
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is the law of the land, the American thing to do is to support it and give it a chance to succeed since maximizing participation is the best scenario under current law.
I bet Obama is glad Lincoln didn't feel the same fricking way.
Edit: More&Les - damn you seriously, it's a dipshit position. Liberals are retards
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 3/12/14 at 7:24 pm to Big12fan
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Republicans have done all they can to sabotage this program, even wasting time and money trying to defund it, yet they have not offered an alternative to it.
The alternative is the way things used to be where individuals made their own decisions without government mandates, which worked perfectly fine for the VAST majority of people.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 7:34 pm to pistolpete23
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Why, all those low-income folks need to do is stop spending money on luxuries like cable television and cell phones!
I dislike Obama as much as anybody, and hat Obamacare even more. But, there is some truth to this statement.
Though, if a conservative spoke the same truth, he/she would be crucified.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 7:35 pm to More&Les
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Slavery was at one time the law of the land, women didn't have the right to vote, by law, segregation, homosexuality was illegal was it the American thing to do to support those things...?
Sorry, that analogy doesn't work. You make the assumption that people who buy into the program will get no benefit from it, while millions surely will. I don't know how you can compare being a slave to having to buy health insurance.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 7:37 pm to memphis tiger
If items such as cell phones and cable tv are such luxuries, why won't the government stop subsidizing these items?
That way they would have more funds for Medicaid or other "important" programs for the poor?
That way they would have more funds for Medicaid or other "important" programs for the poor?
Posted on 3/12/14 at 7:38 pm to Big12fan
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the American thing to do is to support it and give it a chance to succeed since maximizing participation is the best scenario under current law
WOW!!
We should wholly support every law, no matter how stupid just because it's the American thing to do.
That is beyond stupid.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 7:40 pm to Big12fan
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, the American thing to do is to support it and give it a chance to succeed
yup
very american
Posted on 3/12/14 at 7:40 pm to LeonPhelps
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The alternative is the way things used to be where individuals made their own decisions without government mandates, which worked perfectly fine for the VAST majority of people.
So you are ok with this rate of escalation?
Posted on 3/12/14 at 7:41 pm to Big12fan
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I don't know how you can compare being a slave to having to buy health insurance.
well it's not on the same level for sure, but the ACA mandates my labor
Posted on 3/12/14 at 7:43 pm to Big12fan
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So you are ok with this rate of escalation?
no
it's a sign of government intervention and over-insurance. how does the ACA fix the problems when it triples down on them?
Posted on 3/12/14 at 7:45 pm to Big12fan
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now it is the law of the land, the American thing to do is to support it and give it a chance to succeed
Eric Holder doesn't agree with this...only the laws you like!
Posted on 3/12/14 at 7:45 pm to Big12fan
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Sorry, that analogy doesn't work. You make the assumption that people who buy into the program will get no benefit from it, while millions surely will. I don't know how you can compare being a slave to having to buy health insurance.
And millions will benefit less from the program, while paying more.
White folks would benefit greatly from slavery. Lotta guys named Hunter would be in the NBA
Posted on 3/12/14 at 7:47 pm to Big12fan
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You make the assumption that people who buy into the program will get no benefit from it, while millions surely will.
And millions of others surely won't.
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I don't know how you can compare being a slave to having to buy health insurance.
OK then. The law of the land is that the government can spy on you without a warrant, hold you as an enemy combatant with no charges and no access to an attorney, or even murder you via drone strike. The law of the land is that the government can seize your property under forfeiture laws without charging you with a crime or giving you the opportunity to defend yourself.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 7:48 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
Government mandating personal responsibility negates any personal responsibility. Burgers are now illegal unles you buy at least 5 salads for your previous meal. What? Can't afford the burger? Oh well. Should be eating salad anyway. Better to miss a meal than eat that burger. Nevermind that you worked for that money and should be able to spend it - or not spend it - on anything you want.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 7:49 pm to pistolpete23
Sounds true to me. . .
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 3/12/14 at 7:50 pm to memphis tiger
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This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 3/12/14 at 7:50 pm to Big12fan
You think Obamacare will in any way improve that or that the old health insurance is the primary cause?
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 7:52 pm to Big12fan
quote:Bullcrap!
the American thing to do
Posted on 3/12/14 at 7:52 pm to memphis tiger
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We should wholly support every law, no matter how stupid just because it's the American thing to do.
I don't believe that I said that. What I am saying is that to sabotage the program at this juncture is both stupid and costly. 18% of our GDP goes towards health care and the Republican efforts to make this a failure is costing us (like $28 billion for the govt shutdown). Its a negative approach to solving the problem and it isn't working, it is only worsening the situation.
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 7:53 pm
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