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re: Obama "Health care isn't expensive just cancel your cable and phone"
Posted on 3/16/14 at 8:47 am to constant cough
Posted on 3/16/14 at 8:47 am to constant cough
Even if it's an Obama phone? No. Subsidies from pre -paid phones pay for Obama phones.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 9:27 am to germandawg
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Obamacare will eventually evolve into a highly succesful piece of legislation that will be as ingrained in the American experience as social security
1. How do you define success? By taking freedom away from citizens? By bringing our debt to unprecedented levels? Mission accomplished.
2. You akin the ACA with social security. You are aware that the social security system is broke and can't continue don't you?
Posted on 3/16/14 at 9:33 am to germandawg
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I should be as free from footing the medical bills of those who won't foot those bills for themselves.
I should be free from paying for some lardass who shoves triple cheeseburgers down his gullet, or some methhead's rehab, or some flighty coed's birth control, but you support forcing me to pay a higher premium for those people. And those things cost a LOT more than uncompensated care.
Uncompensated care in 2011 was $41 billion...total healthcare spending that year was about $850 billion. So the idea that the individual mandate will yield any significant savings is a myth. It's only 5%, and not all of it will be solved by Ogumpcare. Unpaid bills include people who don't pay their copays and deductibles. That can still happen. It includes cases where insurance companies deny claims. That can still happen. It includes people who qualify for Medicaid but don't bother signing up. That can still happen. It includes illegal aliens and foreign tourists. That can still happen.
But you did manage to trample individual freedom and screw over the middle class to the tune of thousands of dollars a year. Good job.
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