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re: Mega church Pastor resigns, apologizes to LGBT Mafia
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:00 pm to Seldom Seen
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:00 pm to Seldom Seen
quote:A well placed comma or two would be nice.
People don't like to hear it but Christianity at least Western Christianity has become Cucked.
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Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:03 pm to anc
quote:I’ll proofread it for you...
I’m working on a paper (that may become a book, who knows?) on post-Christian America and whether we have reached it or not.
True Christendom is a minority within Americans christianity. It’s all entertainment and self help centers. And Christians are quickly becoming a minority.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:05 pm to 0
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Love seeing posts like this. What gives you the right to label someone else’s beliefs?
Having a brain and giving a care about what constitutes orthodoxy.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:06 pm to dawgfan24348
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So believe in me or you go to hell. That's not free will by the way which we're supposed to have
First off, there is a section of Christianity that doesn't believe in free will. Secondly, having the right to reject God would be the exact definition of free will.
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:08 pm to SSpaniel
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Because my church has about 30,000 members, but I would in no way consider it a "Mega Church."
If you are in Germantown and you speak of a 30,000 member congregation I would guess yo go to Bellevue Baptist on Appling. It is mega with that amount, just not in the new Moralistic Therapeutic Deist sense like Osteen and Jakes is.Know Steve Gaines...like him very much. Bellevue is pretty conservative theologically, in the Baptist sense.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:21 pm to xiv
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I haven’t accused you of anything, but you’re acting as if I have.
I am? I'm simply asking for you to give a specific meaning to your otherwise vague wording.
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and your tone is a defensive one—against what, exactly?
What is defensive about my tone? I'm just pointing out how you always enter these threads with vague wording, and when someone asks you to be specific, you evade or leave the thread.
Projecting much there little buddy?
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 7/29/19 at 2:18 pm to dawgfan24348
quote:first, we're not talking about love. We're talking about gay sex. Second, who told you that gay sex isn't a sin? Where did you get that information? Third, Job 38:4-7. Fourth, Romans 9:21.
Hey queer you're going to hell for loving someone
quote:yeah because gay sex makes so much sense biologically, emotionally and morally
Don't worry I do this out of love
quote:see, hidden behind these criticisms is the implicit notion that things would have been better if God had acted differently. Ok. So go ahead. Prove that your idea would have turned out better. And while you're at it, prove what "better" means and how you know
our merciful God genocided the planet
quote:ah. So you acknowledge that they were candidates for punishment. So what's the problem again?
some people don't follow my rules
Posted on 7/29/19 at 2:22 pm to xiv
quote:ok. Let us know when you're ready to actually defend your position instead of just casting stones at people who are calling out your dumb ideas
Because
Here's a thought, maybe your opponents are, gasp, right. PLOT TWIST
Posted on 7/29/19 at 2:23 pm to Revelator
Serve me or burn forever isn't free will it's the illusion of free will
Posted on 7/29/19 at 2:24 pm to dawgfan24348
quote:why not? Tell us your definition from your extensive study of epistemology and philosophy of religion
That's not free will
Posted on 7/29/19 at 2:25 pm to dawgfan24348
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Serve me or burn forever isn't free will it's the illusion of free will
If you were headed towards a fiery death and I offered to help you, but you refused, that would be your choice would it not?
Posted on 7/29/19 at 2:30 pm to dawgfan24348
quote:Evolutionary atheism doesn't offer free will, either. All that we are, do, say, and think would be the result of chemical reactions in our brains being acted on by natural forces, like snowflakes forming, iron oxidizing, or soda fizzing when you open the cap. That's not free will.
Serve me or burn forever isn't free will it's the illusion of free will
Posted on 7/29/19 at 2:31 pm to dawgfan24348
quote:I see you repeating your initial assertion but you haven't proven it. What you stated is not mutually exclusive of free will. You've merely stated the result of choice
Serve me or burn forever isn't free will it's the illusion of free will
Posted on 7/29/19 at 2:34 pm to bfniii
It's not really a choice when the person giving you said "choice" is threatening you with entenral suffering.
If a person came up to you and put a gun to your head and said do this or I'll blow your brains out that's not a choice. The person is basically saying you have to do what I say or you're dead
If a person came up to you and put a gun to your head and said do this or I'll blow your brains out that's not a choice. The person is basically saying you have to do what I say or you're dead
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 7/29/19 at 2:41 pm to dawgfan24348
Logic is not the reason they believe, nor will it be the reason they disbelieve.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:05 pm to dawgfan24348
quote:yeah it's still a choice; comply or not. Suicide is a choice. Your last one. But a choice. The result of the choice doesn't diminish that at all.
The person is basically saying you have to do what I say or you're dead
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:22 pm to KiwiHead
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If you are in Germantown and you speak of a 30,000 member congregation I would guess yo go to Bellevue Baptist on Appling.
Not that hard to figure out, huh?
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It is mega with that amount, just not in the new Moralistic Therapeutic Deist sense like Osteen and Jakes is
That's what I was getting at. Mega Church is used generally with a negative connotation.
Mega in size doesn't equate to Mega in belief or "theology".
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Know Steve Gaines...like him very much. Bellevue is pretty conservative theologically, in the Baptist sense.
Same here. Like him. To be fair, he's not Dr. Rodgers, but the very very very few are.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:46 pm to anc
No, it's Covenant Life Church, a 'mega church' in Gaithersburg, MD. From speaking with insiders familiar with the church, it is struggling financially and otherwise, and has a lot of skeletons in the proverbial closets. Not clear how much longer it will be around!
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:53 pm to bfniii
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yeah it's still a choice;
No it's not if option b is the person or God killing your or throwing you to Hell there is no rational second option. That's how dictators rule
Posted on 7/29/19 at 4:06 pm to dawgfan24348
quote:I've argued with people for years about the truth about God and the Bible. You know what a common retort is I get when all is said and done? "If the God of the Bible exists, I hope I go to Hell because I'd rather suffer than worship a tyrant."
No it's not if option b is the person or God killing your or throwing you to Hell there is no rational second option. That's how dictators rule
When people are told about the choice, the rebellious would still rather choose sin and rebellion over God.
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