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re: Mega church Pastor resigns, apologizes to LGBT Mafia
Posted on 7/29/19 at 4:17 pm to dawgfan24348
Posted on 7/29/19 at 4:17 pm to dawgfan24348
quote:
No it's not if option b is the person or God killing your or throwing you to Hell there is no rational second option. That's how dictators rule
Posted on 7/29/19 at 4:19 pm to razthecat
Funny, but completely leaves out the part where the person on the other side of the door has been executing treason against the King all their life and the King is offering an opportunity of pardon before they are executed for their treason.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 4:20 pm to Seldom Seen
There's the skinny jeans wearing, gesturing with your hands, soy boy evanjellocalism.
Then there's the real thing.
Orthodox Church Defrocks Priest, Razes Church After Gay Wedding
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The future of the church is its past.
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Then there's the real thing.
Orthodox Church Defrocks Priest, Razes Church After Gay Wedding
LINK
Journey to Orthodoxy
The future of the church is its past.
The Christian Revival Nobody Is Talking About
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 7/29/19 at 4:22 pm to GoldenGuy
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God is inside us .... not in the churches. Our bodies are our temples, our minds are ours.
If you hold this view, then you are not a Christian.
Show me anywhere in the bible that the church is a physical building. It's not. The church is the people. The physical building is a convenient, comfortable place to meet. Where 2 or more are gathered..............
Posted on 7/29/19 at 4:32 pm to Geauxboy
quote:I don't think you're understanding the point. The point isn't about the building but the meeting together with other believers to hear the Word preached and the sacraments given; it's participating in the means of grace. It's meeting together with the other members of the body of Christ to uplift and to be uplifted, to help and to be helped. It's submission to the leaders God put in place in His Church for instruction and reproof. It's a host of things that cannot exist by worshiping on a mountain or in your living room, alone with Sermon Audio on in the background.
Show me anywhere in the bible that the church is a physical building. It's not. The church is the people. The physical building is a convenient, comfortable place to meet. Where 2 or more are gathered..............
And has been said, "For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them" is about the validity of Church discipline, not worship. The previous verses describe what to do with a brother who sins against you, concluding that you take them before the church and if he still doesn't repent, you excommunicate him. Read that again: you take him before the church. That can't happen if you don't belong to a local congregation of believers.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 4:37 pm to Geauxboy
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Where 2 or more are gathered..............
Again - that verse has ZERO to do with worship. Its about taking grievances with fellow Christians before the church.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:11 pm to Centinel
quote:And it isn’t my job to meet your demands. The way the conversation would go after that is predictable, so you’ll just have to find someone else for your “debate me, coward” game.
you always enter these threads with vague wording, and when someone asks you to be specific, you evade or leave the thread.
quote:No, it’s you, and the pseudo-namecalling is how I know you’re mad.
Projecting much there little buddy?
Not my job to clarify anything for you or define anything for you.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:12 pm to bfniii
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we're not talking about love. We're talking about gay sex.
quote:
by bfniii
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:14 pm to bfniii
quote:Somebody’s casting stones
Let us know when you're ready to actually defend your position instead of just casting stones at people who are calling out your dumb ideas
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:21 pm to xiv
quote:Why, then, are you commenting? If your goal isn't to provide a perspicuous and coherent opinion, why comment at all?
And it isn’t my job to meet your demands. The way the conversation would go after that is predictable, so you’ll just have to find someone else for your “debate me, coward” game.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:24 pm to FooManChoo
Same reason everybody else is.
I offered my comments and stand by them. All the terms I use have definitions. Anyone truly wanting to know the meaning of any term I used will look it up and go from there. Anyone demanding I provide them a definition of a term I’ve used is being lazy and disingenuous, so I don’t engage with the lazy, hacky tactic.
I offered my comments and stand by them. All the terms I use have definitions. Anyone truly wanting to know the meaning of any term I used will look it up and go from there. Anyone demanding I provide them a definition of a term I’ve used is being lazy and disingenuous, so I don’t engage with the lazy, hacky tactic.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:26 pm to xiv
quote:I can't speak for others but I sometimes am so perplexed by the usage of certain words and phrases by others within the context of the discussion that I feel compelled to ask for clarification in order to make sense of what is being said. Sometimes the lack of clarity is on me, and sometimes it's on the other person. Constructive dialogue requires that both the sender and the receiver of the message to understand what the message is saying.
Same reason everybody else is.
I offered my comments and stand by them. All the terms I use have definitions. Anyone truly wanting to know the meaning of any term I used will look it up and go from there. Anyone demanding I provide them a definition of a term I’ve used is being lazy and disingenuous, so I don’t engage with the lazy, hacky tactic.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:30 pm to FooManChoo
Sure, sure, but when I’m being asked to clarify my use of a term so somebody can fight with me about whether calling being gay a sin counts as gay-bashing, I’m not stepping up for that useless debate because it isn’t I with whom the other person truly is debating.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:33 pm to dawgfan24348
quote:yes, it is still a choice. you are being given a choice. comply or not. it's just not that hard to understand. you don't know for a fact that it will end in your death. you are being TOLD that.
No it's not if option b is the person or God killing your or throwing you to Hell
you are conflating the outcome with the choice. the outcome is downstream
quote:to you
there is no rational second option
quote:dictators can be resisted at least once
That's how dictators rule
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:34 pm to razthecat
quote:God is only going to do what you have chosen for yourself.
razthecat
this is always humorous. people clamor for freewill and then God honors that but people don't want the consequences that they knew about in advance.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:36 pm to anc
quote:you're still missing hebrews 10:25
anc
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:37 pm to xiv
quote:
xiv
do you have a substantive response?
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:37 pm to xiv
quote:i responded to your statements on substance. you have not reciprocated. why?
Somebody’s casting stones
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:38 pm to xiv
quote:Considering the sensitivity of the issue, I can understand why the clarification was asked. "Gay-bashing" has different connotations depending on who you ask. It can be trying to physically harm or harass homosexuals to hurt them, or it can be simply saying what they do is wrong, even if said out of simple disagreement and without malice.
Sure, sure, but when I’m being asked to clarify my use of a term so somebody can fight with me about whether calling being gay a sin counts as gay-bashing, I’m not stepping up for that useless debate because it isn’t I with whom the other person truly is debating.
Considering some governments have condemned even religious beliefs and texts that condemn homosexual behavior, I can understand why such a clarification is desired.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:45 pm to 0
quote:
What gives you the right to label someone else’s beliefs?
The 1st Amendment.
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