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re: Is there a true goal of US Conservatives and Liberals?

Posted on 8/30/17 at 8:39 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71519 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 8:39 pm to
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the words in the statement


You can't even get the words right.

Please, do continue...
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8064 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 8:48 pm to
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In other words, what does the end goal, utopia look like for the average conservative and liberal in the United States?

Both sides want people have to meaningful, fulfilling lives.

How we move society to that point is the main disagreement.

I tend to think almost everyone already has a chance at a meaningful life.
Posted by AustinTigr
Austin, TX
Member since Dec 2004
2937 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 8:52 pm to
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You mean privatizing everything including even when its disingenuous, like prisons


Why, 'yes', that's precisely what I mean. It's only disingenuous to a Lib.


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and having more laws.
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Hello. Aren't you the guys the ones bitching about Conservatives DE-regulating everything.


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A big military and plenty of war. [/quote]
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* Plenty of war, like FDR (a Democrat); or like the atomic bomb Truman dropped (a Democrat); or the Korean war Truman (a Democrat) got us into; or the Vietnam war that Kennedy (a Democrat) got us into or that Johnson (a Democrat) escalated... I mean if your idea of 'peace' is allowing N. Korea and Iran to develop nuclear weapons, or Libya to go to hell in a hand-basket and Iraq/Syria to fall to ISIS... then, 'yes' again, big military and plenty of war on those ALREADY WARRING ON US!!!

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Also, pretending like time is not advancing and trying to live like it's 1845.
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1845... when Democrats refused to end the institution of slavery, followed by the Democrats starting the KKK, and the Democrats starting Jim Crow, and the Democrats blocking the doorway of colleges to black students... but times have changed, so now Democrats simply abort non-white babies and refuse to provide them school vouchers... So in that sense, IT LIBS, NOT CONSERVATIVES, KEEPING IT 1845.



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This post was edited on 8/30/17 at 8:55 pm
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29722 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 8:57 pm to
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Why, 'yes', that's precisely what I mean. It's only disingenuous to a Lib.
and having more laws. [/quote] Hello. Are you the guys bitching about Conservatives DE-regulating everything. [/quote] A big military and plenty of war. [/quote] * Plenty of war, like FDR (a Democrat); or like the atomic bomb Truman dropped (a Democrat); or the Korean war Truman (a Democrat) got us into; or the Vietnam war that Kennedy (a Democrat) got us into or that Johnson (a Democrat) escalated... I mean if your idea of 'peace' is allowing N. Korea and Iran to develop nuclear weapons, for Libya to go to hell in a hand-basket and Iraq/Syria to fall to ISIS... then, 'yes' again, big military and plenty of war on those ALREADY WARRING ON US!!! [/quote] Also, pretending like time is not advancing and trying to live like it's 1845. [/quote] 1845... when Democrats refused to end the institution of slavery, followed by the Democrats starting the KKK, and the Democrats starting Jim Crow, and the Democrats blocking the doorway of colleges to black students... but times have changed, so now Democrats simply abort non-white babies and refuse to provide them school vouchers... So in that sense, IT LIBS, NOT CONSERVATIVES, KEEPING IT 1845. [/quote]
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 10:42 pm to
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You mean privatizing everything including even when its disingenuous, like prisons


Why, 'yes', that's precisely what I mean. It's only disingenuous to a Lib.


So making profit from the number of prisoners you have is good for society?

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Hello. Aren't you the guys the ones bitching about Conservatives DE-regulating everything. 


Well arent you an idiot. You're obviously missing the entire point.


You guys are always talking about how much individual Freedom people need to have but I guess what you really just mean is Corporate freedom to f*** over individuals because you seem to be a okay with the idea of government making more laws and made more forceful upon its citizens as long as you agree.

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1845... when Democrats refused to end the institution of slavery, followed by the Democrats starting the KKK, and the Democrats starting Jim Crow, and the Democrats blocking the doorway of colleges to black students... but times have changed, so now Democrats simply abort non-white babies and refuse to provide them school vouchers... So in that sense, IT LIBS, NOT CONSERVATIVES, KEEPING IT 1845. 



There is so much stupid here I don't even know where to begin. First off you know most of those Northern Republicans eventually became the Democrats and then the Southern Democrats became Republican so none of your info is relevant, just like your ideology.

Democrats value education more. Been that way for a while. Most of us dont like vouchers because we dont like segregation whether it be classist or racist. You know, like the dems of 1845 you stupid f***

Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44808 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 10:50 pm to
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Democrats value education more


Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13341 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 10:56 pm to
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There is so much stupid here


Well, you got that right anyway. You should find a mirror and repeat that phrase a hundred times or so. Then do something about it.
Posted by roux
Tiger Territory
Member since Dec 2006
1590 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 10:58 pm to
Leave me alone.
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