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Is there a true goal of US Conservatives and Liberals?

Posted on 8/30/17 at 9:11 am
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 9:11 am
In other words, what does the end goal, utopia look like for the average conservative and liberal in the United States?

Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 9:13 am to
On some level they aren't that different.

Both want government for different reasons, even though most Conservatives won't or can't admit it.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
52891 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 9:13 am to
Remember the soviets? Conservatives fight so the us doesn't become that

Not to mention more evil liberal inventions like full birth abortion and the turn the penis into a vagina surgery
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12040 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 9:15 am to
Lol

Uniparty does whatever keeps money and power in their grasp. Nothing to do with better visions for the country anymore. Utopia is all the free money they can get their hands on.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118550 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 9:16 am to
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what does the end goal, utopia look like for the average conservative


More liberty and protection of property rights.

quote:

and liberal in the United States


Less liberty and property rights and more wealth redistribution through government policies that control population and socialize business.
Posted by AustinTigr
Austin, TX
Member since Dec 2004
2937 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 9:18 am to
The Conservative Utopia of government (generally speaking) is 'don't call us, we'll call you'. We recognize the need for government, but limited to say the least. Otherwise, keep us safe, provide major infrastructure. Be there in a disaster... but leave the rest to me.

The Liberal Utopia of government is "solve all my problems and be responsible for me". Their end goal? There is no end goal with Liberalism. As my mother used to say, "if they didn't have anything to complain about, they would complain about not having anything to complain about!!
This post was edited on 8/30/17 at 9:21 am
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
12985 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 9:18 am to
Liberals want an atheistic commune where everyone is transgendered and bi-racial. Conservatives want a Protestant Christian dictatorship where all tax dollars go to the military and only Bud Light is available in the beer aisle.
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 9:23 am to
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Conservatives want a Protestant Christian dictatorship where all tax dollars go to the military and only Bud Light is available in the beer aisle.

Sounds pretty good to me
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 9:23 am to
But can we make it Miller or Coors?
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55437 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 9:29 am to
Yuengling or die. But I want an Orthodox monarchy, not a dictatorship. I'll settle for Catholic.
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
12985 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 9:30 am to
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But can we make it Miller or Coors?


No, when asked for comment on beer choice, the Conservative God Emperor said those are "cuck beers" and then handed the mic to Kid Rock, the new Chief Scientist at the CDC.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39125 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 9:36 am to
They both want total control of every aspect of your life. They just have different ways to achieve it.
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
12985 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 9:37 am to
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I'll settle for Catholic


Sorry but all Catholics are going to hell. Don't believe me? Ask a Baptist.
Posted by LSUcjb318
Member since Jul 2008
2364 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 9:39 am to

Everybody's top goal should be getting corp money out of politics. Nothing will happen until this is done.

Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
6848 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 9:39 am to
The end goal seems to be the continued polarization of both parties leading to a virtual stalemate where nothing can be done and only resentment grows.

Thanks CNN, FOX, MSNBC and the like!
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 9:40 am to
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More liberty


Except for those pesky drug and prostitution laws.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13308 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 9:50 am to
Interesting that you used Conservative/Liberal rather than Republican/Democrat. Conservative and Republican are not synonymous the way that Democrat and Liberal are. As far as I can tell, there are no Democrats on the federal level That are not Liberals. Conservatives are a small, but vocal minority in the Republican party.

The reason that Conservatives carry so much weight is that everyone, including Democrats know that Conservatives by and large legislate and govern closer to the intent of the Constitution and the Founding Fathers than anyone else. The goal of a true Conservative is adherence and reverence to the Constitution, which limits the size and scope of the federal government.

Liberalism is just a tool to achieve Progressivism. Progressivism just a tool to achieve Socialism. Socialism is just a tool to achieve Communism. Communism is just a tool to achieve Marxism. All of which are an anathema to the freedoms and liberty found in the Constitution, and the principles this country was founded upon. So the true goal of Liberals is the destruction of this country as we know, and love it. They prove this every day by their actions.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 9:51 am to
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In other words, what does the end goal, utopia look like for the average conservative and liberal in the United States?



Define "conservative."
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 9:51 am to
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Liberals want an atheistic commune where everyone is transgendered and bi-racial.


nah

you don't know one person who said that.

Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 9:56 am to
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Conservatives by and large legislate and govern closer to the intent of the Constitution and the Founding Fathers than anyone else. The goal of a true Conservative is adherence and reverence to the Constitution, which limits the size and scope of the federal government.


Uh huh. Then they make it illegal to buy wine on Sundays. Then turn around and resist state gun control measures

Liberals want a progressive tax system, less nation building, smaller military budget, clean air and water through more oversight on industry.. to provide a safety net and raise the quality of living floor. They aren't concerned with the quality of living ceiling.

Conservatives think that they are millionaires who just haven't made it yet and the government and poor people are the primary reason why
This post was edited on 8/30/17 at 10:02 am
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