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[quote]How was Hastings removed by the Senate AFTER he was acquitted in criminal court, if your stance is that a conviction by the Senate is required first prior to criminal prosecution?[/quote] Maybe he wanted to take his chances with the higher bar of proof at criminal trial which seemed to b...
[quote]There are no words in that clause creating any association/requirement between the 2 processes.[/quote] The colon, homie. The colon. [quote] colon is a punctuation mark that is used to divide a sentence. The colon resembles two dots positioned vertically (:). The colon has a variety of...
[quote]When do they define "the party eligible for indictment" or discuss eligibility specifically? [/quote] When they qualified the party as being convicted jfc. No other reason to define them as such. As written it makes perfect sense. Your interpretation requires inference upon infer...
[quote]The 2 are related but conviction is the disqualifying action. Why would they write a discussion about the differences in a criminal prosecution/conviction and a Senate prosecution/conviction by referencing the HOR impeachment process? [/quote] Why would they clarify the party wasn’t prot...
[quote]What specific language makes a Senate "conviction" a requirement to future prosecution?[/quote] When they define the party eligible for indictment, ect as the “party convicted”. Who else besides someone convicted by the senate would this apply to? ...
[quote]he's not facing double jeopardy, why would a clarification regarding the impacts of a Senate "conviction" on double jeopardy matter to him? It doesn't apply to him either way.[/quote] It’s not. It’s clarifying that while the impeachment conviction only carries loss of job the “party convic...
[quote]ell you have refused to answer my question earlier,[/quote] What question was that?...
And if what you’re saying is true the entire impeachment process is superfluous. Just let the courts handle it and anyone convicted will be ineligible. ...
[quote]It separates the punishments/processes. It doesn't limit either[/quote] Wrong. The use of a colon should have tipped you off. ...
[quote]The one clarifying that "conviction" is not one for criminal matters,[/quote] lWhere does it clarify that? All I see is that it limits the punishments available. ...
[quote]Why would the following clause be needed at all then?[/quote] It wouldnt. In fact the only reason it exists is to define what the party convicted by the senate might face. Thats why they use a colon and then start the clause with “but” (because they are explaining what happens once the par...
[quote]Which language creates a requirement that the above "conviction" is required for a criminal trial?[/quote] When they say a “convicted party” can be eligible for indictment, ect. Do you think they added “convicted” that just for funzies or do you think it might mean something?...
[quote]Nowhere does it make it a requirement. No language states, nor implies, this.[/quote] They made it a requirement when they qualify the party as one that has been convicted. ...
[quote] It was a totally legit thing to say, and I find it hard to believe anyone who thinks otherwise has actually read the transcript of the discussion.[/quote] Its plain as day in the call that Trump thought there were votes that were lost that needed to be found. Anyone suggesting otherwis...
[quote] They are differentiating "conviction" in the Senate from "conviction" at trial, to ensure there are no issues with Double Jeopardy[/quote] coughcough***bullshite***coughcough...
I'm not convinced either way but I do find it strange that we never went back. I feel pretty confident that had we gone once we'd continue to go back until we made the moon a de facto US territory. ...