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re: If a border tax passes who will quit what they are doing to make underwear??
Posted on 2/28/17 at 10:19 am to Ace Midnight
Posted on 2/28/17 at 10:19 am to Ace Midnight
For Medicaid, 28 percent of recipients between the ages of 18 and 64, worked full time, according to the Census Bureau. (Another 15 percent of recipients in that age group worked part time.)
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 10:19 am to Ace Midnight
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What if the 100 million or so quit "sitting on arse" to do that stuff?
This is retarded...
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 10:20 am
Posted on 2/28/17 at 10:20 am to Allyn McKeen
I am curious Allyn if you are willing to explain to the naive here just what the tariff does that causes you to consider manufacturing here.
It is basic economics and business I understand but some here do not.
It is basic economics and business I understand but some here do not.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 10:23 am to I B Freeman
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You really can't be this naive can you?
if 15% of the US economy is suddenly taxed an additional 25% where do you expect the money to come from???
That isn't what would happen. Provide a link or STFU.....
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It not my feelings it is just easy for intelligent critical thinkers to see. How many basic structural steel manufacturing companies are there in the United States? Only a handful for your information. Now do you want them to have complete pricing power on steel or would you prefer that we have some foreign competition to keep their prices in line?
I want our government not to run trade deficits and get bent on trade deals. Key word "fair". Many people have pointed this out to you.
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Of course it is like saying that. Have you ever in history seen government shrink after it got more money?
Yes
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And Trump plans to keep paying them---how does a tariff solve that?
You contortions to defend this guys position on tariffs are embarrassing.
Links?
Posted on 2/28/17 at 10:23 am to alphaandomega
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Hunger is one hell of a motivator. They will either get a job or get shot when they break into someones house. Either way it fine with me. Get a job or go into the ground. Im just tired of working my arse of to support 2 families, one that I love dearly and one that does know know me or appreciate my efforts. That second group can suck a bag of dicks and die for all I care.
Nothing on the revealed Trump agenda indicates he intends to cut welfare at all.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 10:23 am to Ace Midnight
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BLS
So according to your link, there are 94.3 million who aren't in the labor force. But only 5.7 million of those want jobs. Which means the remainder is likely made up predomenantly of retirees, stay at home moms, etc.
I doubt those people are going to be hopping back into the workforce (for no reason) to get a new menial labor job
Posted on 2/28/17 at 10:26 am to Strophie
To hell with it, everyone can go commando until it is figured out...
Posted on 2/28/17 at 10:29 am to I B Freeman
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Nothing on the revealed Trump agenda indicates he intends to cut welfare at all.
He has to close the border and get the economy growing, to create new jobs before he does that. As these new jobs are created I would expect some changes to be made to that.
That is an area of HUGE expense that needs to be addressed.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 10:30 am to JayDeerTay84
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That isn't what would happen. Provide a link or STFU...
A link to what???????? The man supports a 25% tariff. What do you expect it to hit??
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I want our government not to run trade deficits and get bent on trade deals. Key word "fair". Many people have pointed this out to you.
You want a trade surplus and the economy that goes with it. I got you----welcome to the Great Depression---the last time we had a trade surplus.
Having trade surpluses should not be a goal of government. Quite the contrary--we much prefer a country rich enough to pay companies in other countries to manufacture things like underwear while we do higher level work like build airplanes and computer software and enjoy higher levels of services like going out to eat.
If having a trade surplus is your goal then tell Trump to put on a 100% tariff and see how you like the selections of goods and services you have then.
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Of course it is like saying that. Have you ever in history seen government shrink after it got more money?
Yes
Please point to that. Never, ever in US History has that happened.
You really are a poor representative of the proponents of costly tariffs.
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 10:33 am
Posted on 2/28/17 at 10:31 am to alphaandomega
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He has to close the border and get the economy growing, to create new jobs before he does that. As these new jobs are created I would expect some changes to be made to that.
That is an area of HUGE expense that needs to be addressed.
How far are you people going to bend backwards to justify his every action???
Posted on 2/28/17 at 10:53 am to I B Freeman
quote:Are nukes part of US military strategy anymore? According to you, they must not be, because we never use them, and we endeavor to never have to.
Get off your fence you can't go both ways.
quote:I am saying they are an arrow in his quiver.
So NC-Tigah you are saying Trump's tariffs are not part of his plan
I am saying Trump and Wilber Ross, who you are apparently unfamiliar with, would hope to use that arrow only if absolutely necessary.
I am also saying you don't seem to understand the impact of unfair trade practice. Ross and Trump do.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 10:54 am to I B Freeman
Depends on the usual factors: pay, benefits, chance for advancement, location, location, location...
Posted on 2/28/17 at 10:56 am to Lsuchs
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ll be tough to convince them to take a paycutt to take a job though
Would be very easy to change their available choices if we had a monarchy
Posted on 2/28/17 at 10:57 am to I B Freeman
I know several poor counties in Missouri that would absolutely kill for some manufacturing jobs that paid $25k/yr with health insurance.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 11:03 am to notsince98
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I know several poor counties in Missouri that would absolutely kill for some manufacturing jobs that paid $25k/yr with health insurance.
Of course---the way to get them is not through tariffs.
The way to get them is through tax reform and making employing people less risky for employers.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 11:08 am to I B Freeman
If they can make s profit Fruit of the Loom might open their factories in Port Barre and St. Martinville and then yes people would be hired back.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 11:11 am to Strophie
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I doubt those people are going to be hopping back into the workforce (for no reason) to get a new menial labor job
Cut off the freebies and see.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 11:24 am to I B Freeman
Christmas lights are annoying anyways and I prefer commando
Posted on 2/28/17 at 11:39 am to I B Freeman
It is a legitimate question. The production of underwear is reliant on exporting bulk yarn and cotton and then importing the finished product. Fruit of the Loom, Hanesbrands, Gildan, etc all rely heavily on this. Fotl does this to the tune of several hundred containers weekly just in and out of little Gulfport, MS.
Just using Fruit as an example, if they were to cease production from central America, in addition to raising the price of underwear, it would effectively close the Port of Gulfport. We would be exchanging well paying, union jobs at a port, for low wage underwear production in a factory. not to mention the drivers, customs brokers and freight forwarders that would be effectively looking for work.
Interesting also that these jobs (underwear production) are in central America, but yet we see droves of immigrants coming north to America for jobs. How well paying do we think underwear production jobs are going to be?
Just using Fruit as an example, if they were to cease production from central America, in addition to raising the price of underwear, it would effectively close the Port of Gulfport. We would be exchanging well paying, union jobs at a port, for low wage underwear production in a factory. not to mention the drivers, customs brokers and freight forwarders that would be effectively looking for work.
Interesting also that these jobs (underwear production) are in central America, but yet we see droves of immigrants coming north to America for jobs. How well paying do we think underwear production jobs are going to be?
Posted on 2/28/17 at 11:47 am to Ace Midnight
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Cut off the freebies and see.
Which freebies? Medicaid and Medicare? Because those are the ones that are mainly affecting the majority of the group you're talking about.
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