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re: Here's where AG Sessions is: DOJ announces crackdown on opioid abuse by doctors

Posted on 7/13/17 at 7:57 pm to
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
6925 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 7:57 pm to
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I'm all for a crackdown on it.



I hope your appendix ruptures, and you get a script for a half dozen Tylenol #3 to get you through recovery.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 7:58 pm to
And not just antibiotics that bugs are susceptible to.

Good example is carbapenem resistance in psuedomonas from ertapenem overuse.

Terrifying shite.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50392 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:19 pm to
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But enforcement is and he has discretionary power.


This is the kind of thing I voted against.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 8:20 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50392 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:19 pm to
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I hope your appendix ruptures, and you get a script for a half dozen Tylenol #3 to get you through recovery.


I'm not sure where you got that I want opioids to be illegal...
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:28 pm to
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This is the kind of thing I vited against.
Well then government would need to expand to levels that are impossible to support financially and practically. We add laws and regulations, but rarely take them away. I like that Trump wants regulations to be eliminated, but still, full enforcement of the laws on the books, dating back hundreds of years would require considerably greater resources than what is even possible.

Furthermore, this also requires them to ignore the evidence regarding the enforcement or a policy, again decades even centuries after they have passed. I don't find that acceptable, especially since the resources are finite, so discretion is not only allowed, it's necessary.

And in Sessions case, Congress specifically denied funding for a specific function, so rather than focusing on the functions of his authority and the corresponding resources, he advocated against that so he could use resources to expand his authority.

So this stance is not only impractical, it requires continued government ignorance. AND Sessions' positions make it clear it's also about power than law alone.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:47 pm to
Had this been crack dealers y'all would have been a okay with it.

The irony
Posted by ctalati32
Member since Sep 2007
4060 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 9:19 pm to
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One of the pediatricians we saw wanted to wait 'just 3 more days' because she couldn't hear anything in his chest. Just 2 days later they had to open the office on a Sat. because I refused to go to the ER. Diagnosis: pneumonia. NOT walking pneumonia. For a 2-year old. Irresponsible medicine!



2 year olds rarely ever get walking pneumonia. Actually for kids under 5 years old most pneumonia is viral pneumonia and you do watch. However once you get to the 2 week mark you should consider a bacterial source. However, if your kid had a pneumona and was getting better then got worse again your pediatrician should have started an antibiotic at that time as it was likely a super-infection
Source: have completed a pediatrics residency
Posted by ctalati32
Member since Sep 2007
4060 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 9:28 pm to
Actually the two biggest factors for the increase in opioid prescriptions are "Pain as the 5th Vital Sign" and Press Ganey/ HCAPS


Pain as the 5th Vital Sign
https://www.medpagetoday.com/publichealthpolicy/publichealth/57336
In 2001 there was the notion that physicians were not treating pain appropriately and that we should focus more on pain. The introduced idea was treating pain as a vital sign (in addition to pulse, blood pressure, temperature, and oxygen saturation) The problem is that pain is subjective. But we were told by new standards that we should be treating the number of the pain score. This is one of the first marks and when you start seeing an increase in drugs used to manage pain

Press Ganey/ HCAHPS
https://www.pressganey.com/solutions/service-a-to-z/hcahps-regulatory-survey
HCAHPS (Hospital Consumer Assessment of Healthcare Providers and Systems) is your basic patient satisfaction survey. Now what the problem with this is that Medicare decided to tie 25% of their reimbursements to patient satisfaction. This is a terrible idea. Studies show that higher patient satisfaction is tied to worse patient outcomes and increased cost. Now imagine that you're working in the ER and someone comes in saying that they are in pain. If you don't think they need narcotics they may get angry, and give you a poor rating. This will decrease your take home pay for acting responsibly. If that patient ends up in the ER multiple times, they will get more surveys and the more it can affect take home pay. Also hospitals will pressure their doctors to improve their scores because it affects the hospital's income.

I don't think that this is right, but there are many doctors who start to cater to patients as customers and try to increase satisfaction instead of doing what is right for a patient.

Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
6925 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 9:35 pm to
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I'm not sure where you got that I want opioids to be illegal


No no no. You misunderstand.

I hope opioids stay legal, something painful happens to you, and you get no opioids because your physician is too scared to give them to you
Posted by Fatal Conceit
Ramblin down that dusty ole road
Member since Jun 2017
594 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 9:36 pm to
Economic crimes. Worthy and need more enforcement. Kill the head, body died. KUDOS, SESSIONS!
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