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Here's where AG Sessions is: DOJ announces crackdown on opioid abuse by doctors

Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:21 pm
Posted by conservativewifeymom
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:21 pm
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To those of you who are bemoaning the fact that the AG is not on Twitter. Saving taxpayers at least $1 billion.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:23 pm to
I guess that's a start, but throwing more people in jail is a tactical failure in the long run.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:23 pm to
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Saving taxpayers at least $1 billion.
Where are you getting this figure from?
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:24 pm to
So, how would YOU reward all of those doctors who were fraudulently writing opioid prescriptions and otherwise abusing the system?!?! A slap on the wrist and a time out?
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:24 pm to
Fox news report just a few minutes ago.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:26 pm to
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I guess that's a start, but throwing more people in jail is a tactical failure in the long run.
Yeah, although most of those arrested were committing fraud and other crimes.

I'm curious about this one though:
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another medical group in Michigan that intentionally wrote unnecessary opioid prescriptions that wound up being resold on the street
How are they making the destination of unnecessary?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:26 pm to
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So, how would YOU reward all of those doctors who were fraudulently writing opioid prescriptions and otherwise abusing the system?!?! A slap on the wrist and a time out?

I'm talking about throwing opiod-related offenders, non necessarily doctors, in jail. We've been treating it as a criminal issue, not a health issue, for long enough and it hasn't worked.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:26 pm to
NBC $1B

crap article didn't mention the number of the fraud
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:26 pm to
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So, how would YOU reward all of those doctors who were fraudulently writing opioid prescriptions and otherwise abusing the system?!?! A slap on the wrist and a time out?
Holy strawman.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:28 pm to
i can get behind this move by sessions. that is a first for me because he is Trump's worst pic of his presidency in my book.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:28 pm to
It may be that the patients for whom they were 'prescribed' had conditions that did not require opioids or could have been treated with other meds.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:31 pm to
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It may be that the patients for whom they were 'prescribed' had conditions that did not require opioids or could have been treated with other meds.
Maybe, but unless there are counter to clear guidelines, ethical practices, and research, I'm always concerned when the government determines what is necessary and criminalizes the unnecessary.

Maybe I just need more information and it is clearly unnecessary.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
35912 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:32 pm to
If the feds are going to spend money on the opiod drug epidemic, I'd rather them invest in treatment for addicts nationwide rather than a round-up of doctors and/or employees of facilities that will just change names and locations and hire new people. I was lucky enough to be able to afford private treatment for my cocaine addiction.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:34 pm to
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I'm talking about throwing opiod-related offenders, non necessarily doctors, in jail. We've been treating it as a criminal issue, not a health issue, for long enough and it hasn't worked.
Yeah. The approach for the last 30+ years had been ineffective at best, and maybe even harmful.

And as it relates to opoids, it seems the government has only made the problem worse as people now seek put illegal street drugs, often with even more dangerous drugs than they know about it.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:35 pm to
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Maybe, but unless there are counter to clear guidelines, ethical practices, and research, I'm always concerned when the government determines what is necessary and criminalizes the unnecessary.

Yeah, that part seemed too subjective. Like you said, I'd be interested to see the standards, if any.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:36 pm to
I agree with you! It reminds me, in some ways, of the crackdown on antibiotics. I'm sure there are people whose conditions clearly necessitate opioids, just as there are people who suffer unnecessarily because they are not prescribed antibiotics. And that's where the black market develops. Obviously, the consequences of opioid abuse are vastly different than those of antibiotic abuse, at least in the short run.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:37 pm to
It should be noted that this is the largest case of it's kind in DOJ history.


I know you stoners don't like Sessions, but this is a good thing.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:37 pm to
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It reminds me, in some ways, of the crackdown on antibiotics

There was a crackdown on antibiotics?
Posted by Markie812
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
2934 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:37 pm to
Ending the war on drugs would save a hell of a lot more than a billion dollars.
Posted by AU_Right
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:38 pm to
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Here's where AG Sessions is: DOJ announces crackdown on opioid abuse by doctors

Has anyone ever looked back and noticed there wasn't a "opioid death problem" until the DEA got involved?
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