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Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:09 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:He isn't the OP.
We should start with a rhetorical, "why haven't you corrected your OP?"
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:12 pm to DawgsLife
quote:Wtf kind of bullshite technicality is this? Security didn't make the decision to come in there and remove this guy on their own. He wasn't causing trouble, he wasn't suspicious, no other passengers had a problem with him... United took it upon themselves to boot him for no damned good reason.
And flash....the airline did not physically remove him. Airport Security did, and the Airport Security does not work for United Air Lines.
quote:I'm pretty sure that when things like this happen, they get settled before making it to court. As I'm sure this one will.
You want to hook me up with one court case in which an airline was found negligible for removing a passenger from an aircraft? just one? It happens every single day. It happens hundreds of times a day. People are removed all the time.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:13 pm to buckeye_vol
ooops .... 
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:13 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Mind telling us which civil rights were violated by united?
We should start with a rhetorical, "why haven't you corrected your OP?"
Because it isn't my OP? Is that a good enough reason? I didn't start this thread!
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:20 pm to Korkstand
quote:
Wtf kind of bull shite technicality is this? Security didn't make the decision to come in there and remove this guy on their own. He wasn't causing trouble, he wasn't suspicious, no other passengers had a problem with him... United took it upon themselves to boot him for no damned good reason.
Look. You guys are basing everything on emotions and news reports. I am merely poitning out the facts. United has a carriage agreement printed on every ticket. (Every airline does) It say thay they are contractually required to get you from point "A" to point "B" in one year. They can remove anyone from the airplane they want to. (I am not saying it is fair...I am saying this is a fact) the asked him to come off the airplane and he refused. The only move at that point was to call security.
I AM NOT SAYING THEY HANDLED THIS WELL. I AM SAYING UNITED DID NOTHING THAT WILL GET THEM SUED.
quote:
I'm pretty sure that when things like this happen, they get settled before making it to court. As I'm sure this one will.
I agree. it will be settled. I have seen wild claims of they guy getting millions, etc. That is not going to happen. (I shouldn't say that, really. We don't know what other circumstances might be in play that none of us are aware of)
I am not arguing United made a great choice, or they handled it well. I am not saying this won't cost them in public relations. All I am saying is that they were within their rights to have the passenger removed from the aircraft.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:20 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
ooops ....
No big deal.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:23 pm to DragginFly
That guy really wanted to examine more penises today.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:39 pm to DawgsLife
quote:
I AM SAYING UNITED DID NOTHING THAT WILL GET THEM SUED.
You can sue for anything. This guy is going to sue the frick out of them, and he's going to get paid. 
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:40 pm to DawgsLife
quote:
I AM NOT SAYING THEY HANDLED THIS WELL. I AM SAYING UNITED DID NOTHING THAT WILL GET THEM SUED.
And yet they're going to get sued and they will pay.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:42 pm to Korkstand
quote:
I AM SAYING UNITED DID NOTHING THAT WILL GET THEM SUED.
Maybe United shouldn't have issued the following statement
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:50 pm to Korkstand
quote:
You can sue for anything. This guy is going to sue the frick out of them, and he's going to get paid.
I'll bite. What will he sue them for?
They didn't physically remove him, the Chicago Police Department, did.
They requested his removal, which CPD did, but that is within their right.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:51 pm to DragginFly
That has absolutely nothing to do with the story and it's kind of horseshite to bring up that guys personal life.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:51 pm to MrLarson
quote:
Maybe United shouldn't have issued the following statement
Apparently somebody got hold of him and told him to say that! He handled it worse than the employees did.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 4:04 pm to DawgsLife
quote:FALSE!
They didn't physically remove him, the Chicago Police Department
quote:FALSE!
which CPD did
quote:Is it?
but that is within their right.
CPD was nowhere close to the plane.
There is major question as to what rights security had to touch this man, much less assault him.
(Hint: that is why the security perp was immediately suspended)
As for the airline, even assuming they did not mislead airport security regarding the situation, good luck justifying their actions to a jury.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 4:10 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Is it?
CPD was nowhere close to the plane.
There is major question as to what rights security had to touch this man, much less assault him.
(Hint: that is why the security perp was immediately suspended)
As for the airline, even assuming they did not mislead airport security regarding the situation, good luck justifying their actions to a jury.
if they
a) werent allowed to ask anyone to leave the plane
b) the agency doing the removing was lied to
c) the agency wasnt allowed to touch anyone
then this changes a lot
Posted on 4/11/17 at 4:14 pm to DawgsLife
quote:He was injured on their property, I think that's enough right there.
I'll bite. What will he sue them for?
quote:I'm sure whatever department the security team is with will get sued, too. Lawsuits all around.
They didn't physically remove him, the Chicago Police Department, did.
They requested his removal, which CPD did, but that is within their right.
You can't be serious here. It's ridiculous to think that a man can be physically removed from a seat he paid for and end up bloody and probably concussed, and that nobody will get sued! And you have to know that this guy is going to get a chunk of change.
It boils down to this (for me): United fricked up, and rather than pay the "market rate" to fix their frickup (raise the payout until they had enough takers), they decided to bring in some muscle.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:03 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:
Is this guy gay? What does that have to do with anything?
It has everything to do with it. Gheys feel 'so persecuted'. It's why people are forced to bake them cakes, or take their photos. Yet they can make a public declaration that they will not dress the new First Lady
It's drama
3 other people were also asked to leave the plane? Why weren't they forcibly removed? It's just special entitlement mentality, that people voted against in the last election. It's the reason people protested when Hillary didn't win. You just can't pitch a fit to get your way. The guy should never fly United again /story
But for him to sit in his seat, and tell the officers that he was too important to bump (in his own mind) and that they should make someone else move, IS bullshite
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:08 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
There is major question as to what rights security had to touch this man, much less assault him.
All they had to tell security is they have a passenger who refuses to exit the plane after being told to. No reason is necessary. They own the plane
/story
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:09 pm to League Champs
quote:We don't even know whether the guy is gay, since the story itself does not even seem confirmed.
It has everything to do with it.
We do know he was traveling with his WIFE.
But of course, you're apparently so obsessed with homosexuality, that you are ready to conclude he's gay, and without any evidence that, if he is gay, it had anything to do with the incident, conclude it has everything to do with the incident.
You're worse than Toddy.
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