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re: Doctor dragged off flight was convicted of trading drugs for sex
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:35 pm to League Champs
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:35 pm to League Champs
quote:Not only does his sexuality have zero impact on this situation, but you don't even know for sure if he's gay. You keep repeating it, though, and that says a lot about your character. It tells me that your opinion means NOTHING.
Still doesn't excuse the gay from willfully disobeying a lawful order, or forcing his way back into the plane after being removed
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:35 pm to League Champs
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Still doesn't excuse the gay from willfully disobeying a lawful order
Is this guy gay? What does that have to do with anything? He had no incentive to give up his seat willfully so its okay to punch him and drag him out?
quote:
forcing his way back into the plane after being removed
In the video it looked like he was concussed. And why don't we fire the people who lost him after knocking him out and dragging from the plane? That is a new level of incompetence.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:36 pm to League Champs
quote:Really focusing on his sexuality, huh?
Still doesn't excuse the gay
quote:No, but I get a lot of us would be pretty defiant given the circumstances. I've seen some people really blow up for far less than that when it comes to traveling.
from willfully disobeying a lawful order, or forcing his way back into the plane after being removed
Besides, I think of all the parties, his behavior was at least the most understandable. United's poor handling is inexcusable, and the police should not escalate situations to those levels since it probably makes the situation less safe.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:36 pm to Korkstand
quote:
It tells me that your opinion means NOTHING.
And yours does? Good lawd.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:37 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:
This guy didn't stand up for what is right. He made an arse of himself fighting a lawful order by police.
Got his arse kicked for his troubles.
What a fricked up world we live in when guys like this are heroes and cops who are out risking their lives everyday are pigs who need to be fried like bacon.....
Shameful
Police state--comply or die
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:37 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
I would imagine United's vouchers are just as useless, outside of the airport.
Yeah I hate flying with United. Since I've moved West I've flown Alaska and damn its awesome. They asked me to move my seat to accommodate a woman and her infant child and they gave me $150 dollars. It was uploaded to my account within 2 days and was valid with no blackout dates. It was awesome.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:40 pm to roadGator
quote:
I support the airlines choice to ask him to leave their property as well.
I don't
The airline sold him a service and refused to make good on it. When they offered him a voucher it is his choice to refuse it or accept it. At this point it becomes a negotiation.
This would be like you hiring a contractor to work on your house and once he got all the materials there and did half the work you call the police on him and have him thrown out.
United used thug tactics and now they are trying to discredit him because they have stacks and stacks of money.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:43 pm to MrLarson
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When they offered him a voucher it is his choice to refuse it or accept it. At this point it becomes a negotiation.
They could have easily incentivized leaving. They could have offered him real money, paid for a cab to go across the city to Midway Airport where Southwest runs 3 flights to Louisville a day, all for far cheaper than this fallout.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:do tell
yeah i posted my SD story from last year
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:51 pm to DragginFly
So you better have a clean past before you allow United to frick you up.
Is that your point here.
I hope whomever thought to dig that up and publish it burns in hell
Is that your point here.
I hope whomever thought to dig that up and publish it burns in hell
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:52 pm to MrLarson
quote:
The airline sold him a service and refused to make good on it. When they offered him a voucher it is his choice to refuse it or accept it. At this point it becomes a negotiation.
This would be like you hiring a contractor to work on your house and once he got all the materials there and did half the work you call the police on him and have him thrown out.
United used thug tactics and now they are trying to discredit him because they have stacks and stacks of money.
You're willfully displaying your ignorance.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:53 pm to DragginFly
quote:
trading drugs for sex
Who hasn't done this?
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:54 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:He paid for a seat, his arse was in his seat, he refused to give up his seat in exchange for a lame-arse offer. The entire situation is United's fault. I wouldn't have left my seat, either.
This guy didn't stand up for what is right.
quote:The police were taking orders from a private company. And there is a reasonable chance that these orders themselves were unlawful. This situation was entirely instigated by United, and you want to blame a victim for resisting?
He made an arse of himself fighting a lawful order by police.
quote:I'd gladly take that beating for what this man will eventually be paid.
Got his arse kicked for his troubles.
quote:Uh, I support what I think is right and just, which means in the vast majority of cases I support the cops. But I absolutely do NOT support a private company using the police to force people to do their bidding.
What a fricked up world we live in when guys like this are heroes and cops who are out risking their lives everyday are pigs who need to be fried like bacon.....
Was this guy under arrest? Did he break a law? As far as we know, the only thing he is guilty of is possibly being mad that he was about to be removed from the plane for absolutely no reason. I know a lot of people who would be mad enough to fight if that happened to them, and I don't blame them. You think it's ok to instigate and poke and prod someone until they do respond in a way that justifies using force? That's fricked up.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:55 pm to crazy4lsu
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When they offered him a voucher it is his choice to refuse it or accept it. At this point it becomes a negotiation.
They should have offered more than $800. If no one takes, it move up to $900. If no one takes, that move up to $1000.
I've never seen $1000 in credits offered on a domestic flight without a taker.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:56 pm to roadGator
quote:Dig into whose past?
Just be prepared for people to dig into your past because that's the world we live in.
You know the OP is Fake News, right?
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:56 pm to Korkstand
quote:
But I absolutely do NOT support a private company using the police to force people to do their bidding.
It's very unlikely that the police officer was even aware that United Airlines was being a complete shite bag.
He handled what he thought was a threat to other passengers.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:56 pm to MrLarson
quote:
I don't
The airline sold him a service and refused to make good on it. When they offered him a voucher it is his choice to refuse it or accept it. At this point it becomes a negotiation.
This would be like you hiring a contractor to work on your house and once he got all the materials there and did half the work you call the police on him and have him thrown out.
United used thug tactics and now they are trying to discredit him because they have stacks and stacks of money.
Incorrect
When you purchase an ariline ticket, you are agreeing to a contract. The contract very clearly stipulates that if a plane is overbooked the airline will offer vouches for anyone willing to deplane, but that in the case where no one volunteers the airline reserves the right to cancel your ticket. That contract is fully legal, and so valid.
Now, myself I believe it should be illegal to overbook a flight, and or for an airline to kick off passengers to make room for employees , but at this point that is not the case. So the contract rules the situation.
United CLEARLY had the right to ask this guy to get off the plane, he agreed to that when he purchased the ticket. When he refuse, he in essence became a trespasser. Any company is going to call the police on a trespasser. Now , once the police show up, it's no longer between the man and the airline, it's between the man and the police , and it is absurdely stupid to fight with the police under any circumstances.
This guy will get ZERO settlement from anyone.
Here's a question though, was that fat frick required to purchase TWO tickets? Pisses me off when I get seated next to a fat bastard like that who takes up his seat and half of mine too.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:57 pm to roadGator
quote:He keeps repeating irrelevant and possibly false information in an attempt to make the victim less deserving of justice. I'd say that makes all our opinions more meaningful than his, wouldn't you?
And yours does? Good lawd.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:58 pm to MrLarson
quote:
United used thug tactics and now they are trying to discredit him because they have stacks and stacks of money.
I fly about 70,000 miles/year, and I'm not about to try United especially after this.
I don't want to end up getting the shite beat out of me because they are too cheap to cough up enough in vouchers or credits to get a volunteer.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:58 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:
United CLEARLY had the right to ask this guy to get off the plane, he agreed to that when he purchased the ticket. When he refuse, he in essence became a trespasser.
United could have defused the situation in a number of ways.
quote:
Here's a question though, was that fat frick required to purchase TWO tickets? Pisses me off when I get seated next to a fat bastard like that who takes up his seat and half of mine too.
He wasn't all that fat.
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