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re: Doctor dragged off flight was convicted of trading drugs for sex

Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:35 pm to
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Still doesn't excuse the gay from willfully disobeying a lawful order, or forcing his way back into the plane after being removed
Not only does his sexuality have zero impact on this situation, but you don't even know for sure if he's gay. You keep repeating it, though, and that says a lot about your character. It tells me that your opinion means NOTHING.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:35 pm to
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Still doesn't excuse the gay from willfully disobeying a lawful order



Is this guy gay? What does that have to do with anything? He had no incentive to give up his seat willfully so its okay to punch him and drag him out?

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forcing his way back into the plane after being removed


In the video it looked like he was concussed. And why don't we fire the people who lost him after knocking him out and dragging from the plane? That is a new level of incompetence.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:36 pm to
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Still doesn't excuse the gay
Really focusing on his sexuality, huh?
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from willfully disobeying a lawful order, or forcing his way back into the plane after being removed
No, but I get a lot of us would be pretty defiant given the circumstances. I've seen some people really blow up for far less than that when it comes to traveling.

Besides, I think of all the parties, his behavior was at least the most understandable. United's poor handling is inexcusable, and the police should not escalate situations to those levels since it probably makes the situation less safe.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 12:38 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140394 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:36 pm to
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It tells me that your opinion means NOTHING.


And yours does? Good lawd.
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
3673 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:37 pm to
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This guy didn't stand up for what is right. He made an arse of himself fighting a lawful order by police.

Got his arse kicked for his troubles.

What a fricked up world we live in when guys like this are heroes and cops who are out risking their lives everyday are pigs who need to be fried like bacon.....

Shameful


Police state--comply or die
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:37 pm to
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I would imagine United's vouchers are just as useless, outside of the airport.



Yeah I hate flying with United. Since I've moved West I've flown Alaska and damn its awesome. They asked me to move my seat to accommodate a woman and her infant child and they gave me $150 dollars. It was uploaded to my account within 2 days and was valid with no blackout dates. It was awesome.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:40 pm to
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I support the airlines choice to ask him to leave their property as well.


I don't

The airline sold him a service and refused to make good on it. When they offered him a voucher it is his choice to refuse it or accept it. At this point it becomes a negotiation.

This would be like you hiring a contractor to work on your house and once he got all the materials there and did half the work you call the police on him and have him thrown out.

United used thug tactics and now they are trying to discredit him because they have stacks and stacks of money.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:43 pm to
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When they offered him a voucher it is his choice to refuse it or accept it. At this point it becomes a negotiation.


They could have easily incentivized leaving. They could have offered him real money, paid for a cab to go across the city to Midway Airport where Southwest runs 3 flights to Louisville a day, all for far cheaper than this fallout.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123894 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:49 pm to
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yeah i posted my SD story from last year

do tell
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:51 pm to
So you better have a clean past before you allow United to frick you up.

Is that your point here.

I hope whomever thought to dig that up and publish it burns in hell
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58690 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:52 pm to
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The airline sold him a service and refused to make good on it. When they offered him a voucher it is his choice to refuse it or accept it. At this point it becomes a negotiation.

This would be like you hiring a contractor to work on your house and once he got all the materials there and did half the work you call the police on him and have him thrown out.

United used thug tactics and now they are trying to discredit him because they have stacks and stacks of money.



You're willfully displaying your ignorance.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90589 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:53 pm to
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trading drugs for sex



Who hasn't done this?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:54 pm to
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This guy didn't stand up for what is right.
He paid for a seat, his arse was in his seat, he refused to give up his seat in exchange for a lame-arse offer. The entire situation is United's fault. I wouldn't have left my seat, either.
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He made an arse of himself fighting a lawful order by police.
The police were taking orders from a private company. And there is a reasonable chance that these orders themselves were unlawful. This situation was entirely instigated by United, and you want to blame a victim for resisting?
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Got his arse kicked for his troubles.
I'd gladly take that beating for what this man will eventually be paid.
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What a fricked up world we live in when guys like this are heroes and cops who are out risking their lives everyday are pigs who need to be fried like bacon.....
Uh, I support what I think is right and just, which means in the vast majority of cases I support the cops. But I absolutely do NOT support a private company using the police to force people to do their bidding.

Was this guy under arrest? Did he break a law? As far as we know, the only thing he is guilty of is possibly being mad that he was about to be removed from the plane for absolutely no reason. I know a lot of people who would be mad enough to fight if that happened to them, and I don't blame them. You think it's ok to instigate and poke and prod someone until they do respond in a way that justifies using force? That's fricked up.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32095 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:55 pm to
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When they offered him a voucher it is his choice to refuse it or accept it. At this point it becomes a negotiation.


They should have offered more than $800. If no one takes, it move up to $900. If no one takes, that move up to $1000.

I've never seen $1000 in credits offered on a domestic flight without a taker.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123894 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:56 pm to
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Just be prepared for people to dig into your past because that's the world we live in.
Dig into whose past?
You know the OP is Fake News, right?

Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32095 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:56 pm to
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But I absolutely do NOT support a private company using the police to force people to do their bidding.


It's very unlikely that the police officer was even aware that United Airlines was being a complete shite bag.

He handled what he thought was a threat to other passengers.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 12:57 pm
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:56 pm to
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I don't

The airline sold him a service and refused to make good on it. When they offered him a voucher it is his choice to refuse it or accept it. At this point it becomes a negotiation.

This would be like you hiring a contractor to work on your house and once he got all the materials there and did half the work you call the police on him and have him thrown out.

United used thug tactics and now they are trying to discredit him because they have stacks and stacks of money.



Incorrect

When you purchase an ariline ticket, you are agreeing to a contract. The contract very clearly stipulates that if a plane is overbooked the airline will offer vouches for anyone willing to deplane, but that in the case where no one volunteers the airline reserves the right to cancel your ticket. That contract is fully legal, and so valid.

Now, myself I believe it should be illegal to overbook a flight, and or for an airline to kick off passengers to make room for employees , but at this point that is not the case. So the contract rules the situation.

United CLEARLY had the right to ask this guy to get off the plane, he agreed to that when he purchased the ticket. When he refuse, he in essence became a trespasser. Any company is going to call the police on a trespasser. Now , once the police show up, it's no longer between the man and the airline, it's between the man and the police , and it is absurdely stupid to fight with the police under any circumstances.

This guy will get ZERO settlement from anyone.

Here's a question though, was that fat frick required to purchase TWO tickets? Pisses me off when I get seated next to a fat bastard like that who takes up his seat and half of mine too.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:57 pm to
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And yours does? Good lawd.
He keeps repeating irrelevant and possibly false information in an attempt to make the victim less deserving of justice. I'd say that makes all our opinions more meaningful than his, wouldn't you?
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32095 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:58 pm to
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United used thug tactics and now they are trying to discredit him because they have stacks and stacks of money.



I fly about 70,000 miles/year, and I'm not about to try United especially after this.

I don't want to end up getting the shite beat out of me because they are too cheap to cough up enough in vouchers or credits to get a volunteer.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:58 pm to
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United CLEARLY had the right to ask this guy to get off the plane, he agreed to that when he purchased the ticket. When he refuse, he in essence became a trespasser.


United could have defused the situation in a number of ways.

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Here's a question though, was that fat frick required to purchase TWO tickets? Pisses me off when I get seated next to a fat bastard like that who takes up his seat and half of mine too.



He wasn't all that fat.
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