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re: Doctor dragged off flight was convicted of trading drugs for sex
Posted on 4/11/17 at 1:18 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Posted on 4/11/17 at 1:18 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:And had they booted the smallest number of paying customers possible, this guy wouldn't have been removed. They can't kick paying customers out and put their own employees on the plane.
Actually that says exactly the opposite. It clearly stated that United DOES have the right to boot a number of paying customers. Albeit at the smallest number possible.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 1:19 pm to buckeye_vol
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And some passengers near him were being interviewed this morning. They said that the way United presented the events was not how they recall. United said they tries multiple times to get him to deplane, but the passengers said they only recall one attempt before the police were brought in.
I also think that the video provides some context. If the guy was being truly unruly, I'm betting the people filming would have cheered or shown support for removing an unruly passenger. The people in this video were clearly horrified.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 1:20 pm to Korkstand
quote:I'm not sure if they can't, but it's definitely not a good business policy, expecially if they don't increase the incentives. I've predominantly Delta and Southwest, and I don't know if they're good airlines, but they sure seem much better than American and United.
They can't kick paying customers out and put their own employees on the plane.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 1:21 pm to buckeye_vol
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But they actually oversold by one and quickly handled that.
In this case, they brought on 4 members of United, so I wonder if that changes things a bit since they weren't paying customers.
If you read the fine print on your arline ticket , it absolutely says that your seat is not guaranteed and that the airline may remove you from your flight at THEIR discretion (presumably only while the flight is on the ground LOL)
There are currently no laws that prevent this, so the contract is valid once you purchase a ticket.
It's exactly no different than if you go to an LSU , or UA, or Georgia football game and make an arse of yourself and are asked to leave midway through the first quarter, Well yeah you bought a ticket that was good for the entire game, but that ticket clearly creates a contract which states that the University may ask you to leave at any time at THEIR discretion, and you better believe that if you don't leave , they will call the cops.
Was the airline an a-hole about this? Absolutely. Did they do anything illegal? Absolutely not.
Was the doctor an a-hole about this? Absolutely, when the cops were called he should have got up and walked off the plane with some dignity. Did the doctor do anything illegal? Absolutely, the cops were called because the guy was no longer welcomed on the plane and wouldn't leave, thus he was trespassing.
This guy isn't a victim , any more than Micheal Brown was a victim, you can't fight with police .
Posted on 4/11/17 at 1:21 pm to DragginFly
Don't care. United is terrible for treating this guy that way.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 1:24 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:What does that mean? My impression of "full retard" is your post.
The police were called, and he went full retard.
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The police were called
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lawful orders from police
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fought with police
quote:There were no police orders. There was no fight with police. There were no police on the plane.
in this case 3 police officers
That is why the airport security officer who knocked the victim unconscious, then dragged him off the plane, has been suspended.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 1:25 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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This guy isn't a victim , any more than Micheal Brown was a victim, you can't fight with police .
Airport security isn't the police man. It's alarming how deferential you are to authority.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 1:26 pm to Korkstand
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And had they booted the smallest number of paying customers possible, this guy wouldn't have been removed. They can't kick paying customers out and put their own employees on the plane.
Of course they can. They can remove you for ANY reason at their discretion. Why is that so hard to understand?
Your ticket is a contract, as long as it contains nothing illegal, it is a valid contract. It is NOT illegal for an airline to say "we can remove you at any time for any reason" therefor if you agree to that stipulation, and you are agreeing by purchasing the ticket , then that contract is valid and you haev agreed "the airline can cancel my ticket at any time"
It's really no differnet than for example, warrantless searches that athe TSA performs at airports. How is that legal? Well you see, the government doesn't need a warrant if you CONSENT to the search. Wait, you say you didn't consent to any search before you flew last time? Well turns out you did, because again your airline ticket is a contract and in that contract you have agreed to consent to being searched before boarding the plane, and thus you can't sue the TSA for searching you without a warrant, and if they do find something illegal, it is fully admissible in a court of law.
This is CLEARLY a case of people not understanding their rights.
You absolutely do not have a right to be on a plane just because you bought a ticket.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 1:27 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:No!
(presumably only while the flight is on the ground)
Not by your read. They can remove you at their discretion........period. And if it takes terminating a life to get it done, you are fine with it.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 1:30 pm to crazy4lsu
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Airport security isn't the police man. It's alarming how deferential you are to authority.
Airport security is a division of the Department of Aviation which is part of the Department of Transportation and they absolutely are for all intents and purposes police.
And what I am deferential to is the rule of law. The rule of law in this case says that the man should have got his fat arse of the plane.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 1:33 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:Time will tell, cuck. Time will tell.
The rule of law in this case says that the man should have got his fat arse of the plane.
You bear a mountain of animus at a man who literally did nothing wrong here . . . up until the point the 70y/o was knocked unconscious by a now suspended Barney Fife.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 1:35 pm to DragginFly
This is negative publicity for United. But the story never tells it all. The passenger had left the plane once and then snuck back on when United employees were boarding. The stink began when he was detected back on the plane and refused to leave again. (At least this is what has been reported.) Can anyone believe any source anymore?
If a passenger becomes disruptive and uncooperative, there is and should be no tolerance.
So like a two year old throwing a tantrum, sometimes physically removing the problem is the only way.
Like it or not, the airline was operating within the law.
If a passenger becomes disruptive and uncooperative, there is and should be no tolerance.
So like a two year old throwing a tantrum, sometimes physically removing the problem is the only way.
Like it or not, the airline was operating within the law.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 1:35 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Airport security is a division of the Department of Aviation which is part of the Department of Transportation and they absolutely are for all intents and purposes police.
So they aren't the police? Huh.
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And what I am deferential to is the rule of law. The rule of law in this case says that the man should have got his fat arse of the plane.
He wasn't that fat you crazy person. The people who mismanaged this are singular. It's amazing to me how cucked you are.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 1:41 pm to Bogie00
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The passenger had left the plane once and then snuck back on when United employees were boarding. The stink began when he was detected back on the plane and refused to leave again.
That's not what happened, according to eyewitness reports. United came in after everyone had already boarded and offered $800 dollars for someone to get off the plane. When no one jumped at their incredibly shitty offer, they used a computer to choose four people at random. The man in his seat was chosen and refused, at which point the situation escalated. The security team later lost the man as he returned to the plane, at which point every deboarded.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 1:41 pm to DragginFly
So... this is a completely different guy right?
I mean if its not him United better freaking pray this can't be traced back to them in any way or that settlement just added a few million.
I mean if its not him United better freaking pray this can't be traced back to them in any way or that settlement just added a few million.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 1:41 pm to montanagator
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So... this is a completely different guy right?
That's the rumor.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 1:43 pm to DragginFly
What does this have to do with United overbooking a flight and then using hired thugs to assault him simply for choosing not to relinquish the service he paid for and which they were legally obligated to provide?
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 4/11/17 at 1:45 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:There's a difference between being deferential to the rule of law vs. the rule by police under the orders of ANYONE.
And what I am deferential to is the rule of law.
quote:I think what the law actually says in this case will be decided in court, on the small chance that United lets it go that far.
The rule of law in this case says that the man should have got his fat arse of the plane.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 1:45 pm to ManBearTiger
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What does this have to do with United overbooking a flight and then using a thug in blue to assault him simply for choosing not to relinquish the service he paid for and which they were legally obligated to provide?
Apparently the guy isn't a victim and is akin to Michael Brown because he refused to comply to a security team, which isn't the police.
We have some deferential tards here.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 1:48 pm to crazy4lsu
The only thing I don't get is the way this guy screamed. Why would anyone scream like that in this situation?
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