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re: Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbing

Posted on 2/24/17 at 3:30 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/24/17 at 3:30 pm to
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saying let's destroy all these agencies is something else.

well he's also at a pep rally

we all know they're not destroying the biggest bureaucratic agency: the military
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 2/24/17 at 3:32 pm to
When a lib is "disturbed" you know what's been said is the correct thing.
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 2/24/17 at 5:23 pm to
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we all know they're not destroying the biggest bureaucratic agency: the military


No shite
Posted by Floating Change Up
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Posted on 2/24/17 at 5:48 pm to
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Reasonable people would agree that some regulations are duplicative, outdated, or truly overly burdensome. The vast majority of us would agree that reducing that kind of burden on business is a worthwhile goal. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater, however, is an incredibly dangerous thing.


And here lies the problem.
(a) "Reasonable" is a subjective term. Is it reasonable for LGBT groups to be protesting in support of Muslim nations whichif they visited said countries, they would be absolutely arrested if they openly admitted their affiliation with the LGBT community while in said countries? I think not, yet there they were en masse. Is it reasonable for the MSM to embark on a constant barrage of insult-after-insult articles with miss-leading information in an effort to destabilize the Trump administration? I think not, yet apparently many other people think it is reasonable. Is it reasonable for the President of the United States to constantly utilize 140 characters or less to communicate every time he gets his feelings hurt? I think not, yet many on this website and in the country disagree.

So -- when you want to discuss Reasonable -- such a thing no longer exists in this society of disdain for the left and hatred for the right. All forms of reasonableness have been eliminated. "Liberalism is a disease." "All conservatives are racists Misogynist." We talk in extremes. We debate in extremes. We "protest" in extremes. Reason is dead.

(b) Due to the death of Reason, and the fact that it doesn't matter what part of the bath water you want to throw out -- SOMEONE will be pissed and claim "you're throwing out the baby! you're throwing out the baby!!". It doesn't matter in this day and age what President Trump tries to accomplish -- the Left has spoken loudly and often... and every-time they speak, they are yelling, "We don't care how much of a failure you are... we don't care how much good you actually could accomplish, we will scream "you're throwing about the baby!" any and every-time you want to do something."

So, people like you, Draconian Sanctions, and others such as Hugo et. al. (and especially the thousands of morons continually protesting about "literally Hitler" bullshite -- are actually leading the need for Trump taking the actions that he is taking.

Reason is gone. And every-MFing-body's babies are going to get thrown out with the bath water. This will be both necessary and tragic.

Yes, there will be some negative repercussions to his actions both domestic and abroad. But in the end, the country will be in a better standing in both regards. At least, that is my reasonable hope.
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 5:49 pm
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/24/17 at 5:51 pm to
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When Bannon talks about dismantling the "Administrative state,” what he's really talking about is allowing corporations and industry the absolute right to do whatever they want, whenever and wherever they want, regardless of its harmful impact on American citizens.


"I won."
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/24/17 at 7:50 pm to
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I somewhat agree with your point, except it sounds like you're saying "what difference does it make."

That it what is dangerous. When our government gets so big and our waste so extreme, that we say "what difference does it make" when efforts are made to cut waste and bloat, we are lost.




I don't mean to imply that it makes no difference...we must watch ourselves and the bastards we elect are they will do some pretty stupid shite...

Progressive movement is the only way society will ever evolve...anything else is devolving...man has been getting more and more liberal and will continue to do so forever....
Posted by Phil2012
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Posted on 2/24/17 at 7:52 pm to
OP, the only thing disturbed here is your thought process! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/24/17 at 7:53 pm to
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Terrible. absolutely terrible.


yes, Libertarianism as practiced today is terrible because all any of them are striving for is having their stamp of approval on every vestige of our society as it exists today...the fact that it exists is not enough...all libertarians want to dismantle and do it all over again, in toto.....talk to any of them long enough and ask them how they would handle first one issue then the other and they will explain how they would recreate our society in its totality right down to the last piece of paper and last regulation...they wouldn't leave anything unchanged it would just take them a couple of thousand years to get right back where they started....
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/24/17 at 7:53 pm to
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I just wish they'd go half as far as you seem to think they'll go.


we are already twice that far now....why reinvent the wheel when you got one that already rolls???
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:19 pm to
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yes, Libertarianism as practiced today is terrible because all any of them are striving for is having their stamp of approval on every vestige of our society as it exists today...the fact that it exists is not enough...all libertarians want to dismantle and do it all over again, in toto.....talk to any of them long enough and ask them how they would handle first one issue then the other and they will explain how they would recreate our society in its totality right down to the last piece of paper and last regulation...they wouldn't leave anything unchanged it would just take them a couple of thousand years to get right back where they started....


Sounds like progressivism
Posted by Phil2012
The planet
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Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:21 pm to
the term progressive is nothing more than a Madison Avenue packaging of warmed over communism! Frauds!
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:35 pm to
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When Bannon talks about dismantling the "Administrative state,” what he's really talking about is allowing corporations and industry the absolute right to do whatever they want, whenever and wherever they want, regardless of its harmful impact on American citizens.


You have no idea what Bannon is really talking about....because you're an idiot.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32889 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:26 pm to
Stop being retarded. You know he is not going to abolish the EPA. But I would be concerned if I were a climate change "scientist."
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 10:27 pm
Posted by tigersbh
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:43 pm to
The era of big government is over.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20891 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:46 pm to
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wholesale elimination of Federal agencies that ensure we receive such things as clean air, clean water, fair labor laws, fair housing standards, anti-discrimination laws, financial regulations, food and drug safety, national education standards, health care standards, etc.



I think this is the best way I can graphically show you how this comes across...

This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 10:48 pm
Posted by Canard Noir
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1397 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 11:00 pm to
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The era of big government is over.


Ha! That is some funny shite right there. Just in the last day or two we're trying to tell States that the Fed will enforce marijuana laws while allowing States to "dicktate" bathrooms.

Small government is a great premise when its applied equally but divisive when its selectively applied. I don't understand why this premise just can't be grasped.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
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Posted on 2/24/17 at 11:06 pm to
This is a perfect example of a Federal agency going off the charts, HUD: the gated apt complex I live in is upscale & well maintained. This week the 200+ residents got a note from mgt that it would be changing all the door knobs on the front doors from round door knobs to levers, as round door knobs are too difficult to handle for some handicapped people. Same principal applies to all the round faucet handles in the bathrooms & kitchens. Some idiot in D.C. actually came up with this idea & got regulations passed under Obama to mandate these changes.
Posted by sumtimeitbeslikedat
Vidalia, La
Member since Nov 2013
4424 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 12:33 am to
Hey buddy! Have downvote #238!!! You are putting words is his mouth! Quit mixing facts of what he said with your opinion, and then representing your opinion as fact B/C you idiotically linked the two.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 12:37 am to
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while allowing States to "dicktate" bathrooms.



SO allowing the federal government to dictate it for everybody instead is "smaller" government?

Liberals started that shite.

5 years ago even idiots knew that dicks go in one bathroom and vags go in the other.

Now all of a sudden it is confusing, with the federal govt under obama forcing the entire country to adhere to their view. Trump is undoing that
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36900 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 1:22 am to
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Progressive movement is the only way society will ever evolve...anything else is devolving.


I mean, it's right there in the name. It makes so much sense.
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