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re: Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbing
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:22 am to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:22 am to Draconian Sanctions
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My posting history is largely centrist
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Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:24 am to roadGator
Well when you're as far to the right as you are it's difficult to see the difference between a center-left liberal and a far far left militant progressive
I JUST said that a 1 in 2 out policy for regulatory reform is fine. Do you think people on the far left are saying that?
I JUST said that a 1 in 2 out policy for regulatory reform is fine. Do you think people on the far left are saying that?
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 10:26 am
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:27 am to Draconian Sanctions
One issue does not make you a centrist or in your mind, does it?
Besides, you said your posting history. Your posting history is not centrist IMO. It's liberal as can be.
Besides, you said your posting history. Your posting history is not centrist IMO. It's liberal as can be.
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 10:30 am
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:28 am to cwill
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It's just a different view on where the power in this country should reside
How about a balance between the two? I don't have any interest in limiting economic growth with truly unreasonable regulations, but I also don't think the government should let Company X pour the waste from their sprocket production into the river, either.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:29 am to roadGator
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One issue does not make you a centrist or in your mind, does it?
Ok, give me another.
If you think I'm so crazy far left you should have no problem providing a ton of specific examples.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:29 am to Draconian Sanctions
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1 in 2 out is one thing
Well, it's an actual, not fabricated thing.
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saying let's completely destroy all these agencies is something else.
Which he didn't say - making it a completely fabricated thing.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:30 am to Draconian Sanctions
Did you call the recent immigration ban a Muslim ban?
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:32 am to Antonio Moss
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Which he didn't say
Surely between this quote:
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If you look at these Cabinet nominees, they were selected for a reason, and that is deconstruction,
Combined with ideas we've heard, like abolishing the EPA, and other signals we've seen from this administration, could be reasonably be interpreted that when Bannon says deconstruction, he means deconstruction.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:34 am to roadGator
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Did you call the recent immigration ban a Muslim ban?
No, I just called it unconstitutional. Non-citizens on American soil and green card holders have due process rights.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:34 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Combined with ideas we've heard, like abolishing the EPA, and other signals we've seen from this administration, could be reasonably be interpreted that when Bannon says deconstruction, he means deconstruction.
Even if you took this to the utmost extreme - which you've done here - it doesn't come close to your original post which argued that Bannon wants to allow businesses to do anything at anytime to anyone.
You have created an enormous strawman and have peppered it since the word go.
(And you're making me defend Trump - in and of itself terrible.)
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:35 am to Antonio Moss
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which argued that Bannon wants to allow businesses to do anything at anytime to anyone.
I honestly believe that's what he wants to do
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:38 am to Draconian Sanctions
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I honestly believe that's what he wants to do
That's fine, you just have zero evidence to support your position.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:40 am to Antonio Moss
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you just have zero evidence to support your position.
You may not agree with my interpretation of the evidence, but that doesn't mean there's no evidence.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:45 am to Draconian Sanctions
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I honestly believe that's what he wants to do
You are like the "Big Fish Story" of interpretation.
Chicken Little your arse away from the rest of us, because your "shtick" is tired.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:47 am to Draconian Sanctions
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The wholesale elimination of Federal agencies that ensure we receive such things as clean air, clean water, fair labor laws, fair housing standards, anti-discrimination laws, financial regulations, food and drug safety, national education standards, health care standards, etc.
the first clue was the nomination of Gov Perry to the cabinet. there's no way he leads up a new approach to life's issues. he's a dud.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:50 am to CoachDon
Keep that head buried in the sand. All you care about is your "team"
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:57 am to Draconian Sanctions
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[T]he great security against a gradual concentration of the several powers in the same department, consists in giving to those who administer each department the necessary constitutional means and personal motives to resist encroachments of the others.... Ambition must be made to counteract ambition.
-Madison
Posted on 2/24/17 at 11:01 am to Draconian Sanctions
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All you care about is your "team"
This is where you lose me. You make clear statements of "truth" when you don't have the "truth" regarding that poster.
You have equally gone the my team and your team right with that way of thinking.
I'm not saying I'm any better and seeing you do it definitely makes me want to consider the times I've done it.
I don't treat this please a serious most of the time though. I save serious conversations with people I can see and share with. It's just too difficult here without body language and background info. It's possible from time to time for sure but it seems rare.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 11:20 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Atop Trump’s agenda, Bannon said, was the “deconstruction of the administrative state” — meaning a system of taxes, regulations and trade pacts that the president and his advisers believe stymie economic growth and infringe upon one’s sovereignty. “If you look at these Cabinet nominees, they were selected for a reason, and that is deconstruction,” Bannon said. He posited that Trump’s announcement withdrawing from the Trans-Pacific Partnership was “one of the most pivotal moments in modern American history.”
Where are the disturbing comments?
Posted on 2/24/17 at 11:56 am to Draconian Sanctions
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When Bannon talks about dismantling the "Administrative state,” what he's really talking about is allowing corporations and industry the absolute right to do whatever they want, whenever and wherever they want, regardless of its harmful impact on American citizens.
And when you complain about, but you really want is to give the federal government the absolute right to do whatever they want, whenever and wherever they want, regardless of its harmful impact on American citizens.
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