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re: Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbing
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:53 am to Strannix
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:53 am to Strannix
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No he's talking about the bloated grotesque administrative bureaucracy
No he's not. DS is right. Just look at many of Bannon's comments from before he was even involved with Trump. He wants to blow up the entire system, and capitalize on the ensuing chaos it will wrought. That's not responsible governing.
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Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:53 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:when the baby has grown, and is now a dead 88 year old you gotta hit reset
Throwing the baby out with the bathwater, however, is an incredibly dangerous thing.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:55 am to Draconian Sanctions
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When Bannon talks about dismantling the "Administrative state,” what he's really talking about is
Trump is the God-Emperor.
I can't believe you missed that memo.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:02 am to Draconian Sanctions
Some food for thought on the successes of reduction of the Administrative state in other countries:
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Other countries’ experience with regulatory offsets
The Netherlands program established a net quantitative burden reduction target that reduced regulatory burdens by 20% between 2003 and 2007. It is currently on track to save €2.5 billion in regulatory burden between 2012 and 2017 by tying the introduction of new regulations “to the revision or scrapping of existing rules.”
Under Canada’s “One-for-One Rule,” launched in 2012, new regulatory changes that increase administrative burdens must be offset with equal burden reductions elsewhere. Further, for each new regulation that imposes administrative burden costs, cabinet ministers must remove at least one regulation. Similarly, Australia’s policy is that “the cost burden of new regulation must be fully offset by reductions in existing regulatory burden.”
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The British began with a “One-in, One-out” policy, requiring any increases in the cost of regulation to be offset by deregulatory measures of at least an equivalent value. In 2013, it moved to “One-in, Two-out” (OITO) and more recently to a “One-in, Three-out” policy in an effort to cut red tape by £10 billion.
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 9:07 am
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:03 am to Draconian Sanctions
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what he's really talking about is allowing corporations and industry the absolute right to do whatever they want, whenever and wherever they want, regardless of its harmful impact on American citizens
Corps can only do what individuals ask them to do; employ them or sell them a product on terms that both parties freely agree on.
Government FORCES individuals to do exactly what they want them to do.
You don't need to trust corps, just don't deal with them if you don't want to. You have to deal with gov't regardless of whether you want to or not.
Which is the institution we should fear?
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:03 am to Draconian Sanctions
Wow. Thanks for posting, DS!
I'm glad to learn that Trump's team is performing better than I ever imagined they would, if they are trying to tackle the job of dismantling the administrative state.
I'm also glad to have a more official sounding name for this thing he is calling "the administrative state". Heretofore I had always just called it Leviathan.
I'm glad to learn that Trump's team is performing better than I ever imagined they would, if they are trying to tackle the job of dismantling the administrative state.
I'm also glad to have a more official sounding name for this thing he is calling "the administrative state". Heretofore I had always just called it Leviathan.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:04 am to NIH
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We love our Bannon, don't we folks?
The messenger is pretty irrelevant to me. It's the message that matters.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:04 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbing
Yeah, likely so, if one is supportive of the quasi Fascist State that has been imbedded into the Bureaucracy.
Trump needs to start out with the Leakers in the Intel Community, who monitor his every communication and seek to bring him down.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:10 am to Tigerlaff
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Sorry, this isn't a "let's sit down and have a conversation" type thing. We just had 8 years of full court press from Obama on regulations. It's time for your side to bend over now.
You sound like you're more interested in your "team" than you are what's actually best for the country.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:11 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:My 'team' is what's best for the country, snowflake.
You sound like you're more interested in your "team" than you are what's actually best for the country.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:13 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbing
Only disturbing to people like you.
Many people like me thought the previous 8 years were really disturbing.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:13 am to Draconian Sanctions
Well there you have it . One side sees America as a constitutional republic and the other side sees it as a bureaucratic and administrative state that imposes and enforces the will of unelected pencil pushers upon the citizenry . And your side lost. So simmer the frick down and take your medicine like a big boy.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:14 am to Draconian Sanctions
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regulations
I don't think your side is calling them regulations since Trump took office. The new word is "protections", as in, Trump is removing your protections.
The memo obviously has not reached you yet.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:14 am to Lsupimp
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One side sees America as a constitutional republic and the other side sees it as a bureaucratic and administrative state that imposes and enforces the will of unelected pencil pushers upon the citizenry .
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:26 am to Draconian Sanctions
furthermore, government needs to unshackle business; large and small. private sector jobs are what really makes for a healthy society and for far too long liberalism has placed the society at large in a straitjacket of political correctness that has impeded the culture and the individual's RIGHT to pursue happiness and shape their own destiny; not to be dependent upon government
that time is over
that time is over
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 9:29 am
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:29 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Draconian Sanctions
Strawman argument much?
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:39 am to Draconian Sanctions
I'm anxious to see the results of the Bannoning of the country, but I guess we should never have expected it to happen quickly, given that he and Trump are being so strongly opposed by the agents of the system they are trying to dismantle.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:40 am to Hooligan's Ghost
I see a lot of general platitudes that have little basis in reality, and to the extent that they do have a basis you're approaching the problem from the wrong angle.
What I don't see is any evidence of critical or nuanced thinking.
What I don't see is any evidence of critical or nuanced thinking.
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 9:41 am
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:41 am to Draconian Sanctions
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You sound like you're more interested in your "team" than you are what's actually best for the country.
There is ample evidence that reduction of the administrative state is a huge positive for the country.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:41 am to Me4Heisman
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You've really gone off the deep end lately.
He's always been in the "Shallow" end.
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