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re: Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbingPosted by Antonio Moss on 2/24/17 at 9:45 am to Draconian Sanctions
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I see a lot of general platitudes that have little basis in reality, and to the extent that they do have a basis you're approaching the problem from the wrong angle.
What I don't see is any evidence of critical or nuanced thinking.
You mean like this?
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When Bannon talks about dismantling the "Administrative state,” what he's really talking about is allowing corporations and industry the absolute right to do whatever they want, whenever and wherever they want, regardless of its harmful impact on American citizens.
re: Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbingPosted by Draconian Sanctions on 2/24/17 at 9:46 am to Antonio Moss
No, that's the reality of what Steve Bannon wants to do.
re: Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbingPosted by RockyMtnTigerWDE on 2/24/17 at 9:47 am to Antonio Moss
re: Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbingPosted by Antonio Moss on 2/24/17 at 9:48 am to Draconian Sanctions
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No, that's the reality of what Steve Bannon wants to do.
Bannon wants no regulations on any business at any time in any place?
Got a link?
re: Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbingPosted by DelU249 on 2/24/17 at 9:49 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Federal agencies that ensure we receive such things as clean air, clean water, fair labor laws, fair housing standards, anti-discrimination laws, financial regulations, food and drug safety, national education standards, health care standards, etc.
re: Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbingPosted by weptiger on 2/24/17 at 9:51 am to Draconian Sanctions
"Fundamentally changing America". Sound familiar?
These guys want to get rid of the government bloat, which is a great thing.
You guys lost, deal with it like "we" did.
These guys want to get rid of the government bloat, which is a great thing.
You guys lost, deal with it like "we" did.
re: Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbingPosted by Champagne on 2/24/17 at 9:51 am to Draconian Sanctions
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what he's really talking about is
bullshite.
STOP frickING LYING by adding your own words to what the Trump Admin is saying and doing.
That's NOT what "de-constructing the administrative state" means. The administrative state is the UN-elected part of FedGov and it is NOT affected by elections. That's why We the People as part of the Trump Revolution want to make the administrative state more accountable and answerable to the People.
YOUR side, the Democrats, built an admin state that implements the Globalist Agenda no matter WHO is in the White House. When it's a Dem, things hum along and the People are ignorant of what is happening. When a TRUMP is in the WH the administrative state rebels and acts to undermine the POTUS.
re: Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbingPosted by Darth_Vader on 2/24/17 at 9:51 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbing
Only if you're an America hating, progressive, globalist who wants to see our culture destroyed and our constitutional republic torn down and replaced with a socialist/communist state.
re: Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbingPosted by Draconian Sanctions on 2/24/17 at 9:52 am to Antonio Moss
It's the logical conclusion of what he's advocated both at CPAC and in other places.
re: Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbingPosted by Draconian Sanctions on 2/24/17 at 9:52 am to Darth_Vader
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Only if you're an America hating, progressive, globalist who wants to see our culture destroyed and our constitutional republic torn down and replaced with a socialist/communist state.
Seek therapy
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re: Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbingPosted by Antonio Moss on 2/24/17 at 9:59 am to Draconian Sanctions
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It's the logical conclusion of what he's advocated both at CPAC and in other places.
Not really, And you have zero evidence to back that position up.
In fact, one of the tenants of Bannon's war on the regulatory state was the 2 for 1 reduction EO signed by Trump last month:
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And, as I previously posted in this thread, similar 2 for 1 and 3 for 1 policies have been implemented by Western nations with positive results:
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Other countries’ experience with regulatory offsets
The Netherlands program established a net quantitative burden reduction target that reduced regulatory burdens by 20% between 2003 and 2007. It is currently on track to save €2.5 billion in regulatory burden between 2012 and 2017 by tying the introduction of new regulations “to the revision or scrapping of existing rules.”
Under Canada’s “One-for-One Rule,” launched in 2012, new regulatory changes that increase administrative burdens must be offset with equal burden reductions elsewhere. Further, for each new regulation that imposes administrative burden costs, cabinet ministers must remove at least one regulation. Similarly, Australia’s policy is that “the cost burden of new regulation must be fully offset by reductions in existing regulatory burden.”
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The British began with a “One-in, One-out” policy, requiring any increases in the cost of regulation to be offset by deregulatory measures of at least an equivalent value. In 2013, it moved to “One-in, Two-out” (OITO) and more recently to a “One-in, Three-out” policy in an effort to cut red tape by £10 billion.
re: Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbingPosted by Willie Stroker on 2/24/17 at 10:03 am to Draconian Sanctions
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It's the logical conclusion of what he's advocated both at CPAC and in other places.
You seem to not understand what it means to be logical. Why not start with accurate?Anything beyond what was said is pure belief and conjecture on your part. You've been poisoned by fake news that does exactly what you're doing now. When it comes to making up stuff, do less of that.
re: Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbingPosted by Darth_Vader on 2/24/17 at 10:03 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Only if you're an America hating, progressive, globalist who wants to see our culture destroyed and our constitutional republic torn down and replaced with a socialist/communist state.
Seek therapy
I notice you didn't deny anything I said though.
re: Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbingPosted by Draconian Sanctions on 2/24/17 at 10:12 am to Darth_Vader
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I notice you didn't deny anything I said though.
I deny all of it. You've been brainwashed by right wing media if you think that's what the left is.
re: Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbingPosted by Darth_Vader on 2/24/17 at 10:13 am to Draconian Sanctions
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I deny all of it. You've been brainwashed by right wing media if you think that's what the left is.
I'm not saying that's what the left is. I'm saying that's what you are. And you can deny it all you want but your posting history shows your true colors.
re: Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbingPosted by stat19 on 2/24/17 at 10:14 am to Draconian Sanctions
breathing... without being conscious of it - you should thank whatever spaghetti monster you think created you, because you may be too stupid to do it if you had to think about it.
re: Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbingPosted by Draconian Sanctions on 2/24/17 at 10:16 am to Darth_Vader
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your posting history shows your true colors.
My posting history is largely centrist
re: Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbingPosted by Draconian Sanctions on 2/24/17 at 10:18 am to Draconian Sanctions
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progressive
I'm a liberal, not a progressive
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globalist
I was against TPP
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who wants to see our culture destroyed
Unpack this a little for me. What specifically are you talking about and what have I said on here that leads you to believe that?
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and our constitutional republic torn down and replaced with a socialist/communist state.
Again what have I said on here that makes you believe that? Be specific.
re: Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbingPosted by Draconian Sanctions on 2/24/17 at 10:21 am to Antonio Moss
1 in 2 out is one thing, saying let's completely destroy all these agencies is something else.
re: Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbingPosted by cwill on 2/24/17 at 10:22 am to Draconian Sanctions
He's talking about shifting power from the State to Pvt companies (ultimately). It's just a different view on where the power in this country should reside. What people will ultimately find is that each has its pluses and minuses. Pick your poison.
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