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re: The biggest problem in schools that no one is talking about

Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:33 pm to
Posted by Cracker
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:33 pm to
yes
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:34 pm to
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I have gotten emails from about 10 parents complaining that it's not fair of me to not let them use calculators for those two sections.


"fair".....
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

these kids are actually too dumb to cheat effectively.
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let's take one from the fall semester
Using one example to describe a student body

Obviously the intelligence of students in a class will vary. If you teach a low level course then the range will be wider. But to associate the act of that one student to an entire roster shows the weaknesses in your teaching and character.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:39 pm to
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quote:
What is the purpose of learning cursive?

Really, give me one good reason to learn it, and I'll agree with you.

One day you may wish to read the US Constitution or Bill of Rights.


One day you may wish to read the Bible, do you read Aramaic?
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:41 pm to
Welcome to the land of the Hope Scholarship in Georgia.

Some schools inflate grades to give their students access to the Hope when they probably do not deserve it. Happens in the poorest areas of the state both city and rural.

Makes it very hard to get admitted to UGA or GT as a FR, but wait til sophomore year and its much easier to get in because the inflated grade kids have not been able to hold the scholarship due to grades.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

Using one example to describe a student body


No. actually, since we are talking about "cheaters" we are discussing a subset of the overall sample space.

the overall sample space is the student body. Cheaters is our subset of that space.

Maybe you should have not cheated and studied....

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But to associate the act of that one student to an entire roster shows the weaknesses in your teaching and character.


Your failure is epically bad.
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:45 pm to
I'm a failure but your job is to do something that can be taught by googling
Posted by arcalades
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 5:24 pm to
A recent thread I started is about this very topic. My kids' county elementary schools weighs minor grades 50% and major grades 50%. That alone is outrageous. But it gets worse. Minor grades involve chapter reviews with simple questions like "What is a rock."

Chapter reviews are 3 to 10 questions. Getting 3 questions correct using the book is worth the same as a 15 question test. Teachers are supposed to give more minor grades, but thus far have generally had more major grades, which gives the minor grades more weight than the major grades. The saddest part is, many of my kids' classmates have D's and F's.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 5:50 pm to
Each generation has been consistently more intelligent than the previous one (Flynn Effect). I think some of the hyperbole about students today (as a whole) is inconsistent with reality. There are problems and there are problems within certain segments, but the problems are overstated.

For the people worried about not teaching cursive. It takes up a lot of time, and time is a valuable resource, especially when others skills are being explicitly tested. Cursive has too little practical utility to justify the time needed to teach at the expense of other skills:
This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 5:51 pm
Posted by Gevans17
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 5:52 pm to
Parents who think their little angels are all geniuses.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 5:55 pm to
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Epic Cajun
quote:

One day you may wish to read the Bible, do you read Aramaic?


The US Constitution and the Bill of Rights are much more important to me.

Might you not want to read the original documents and ascertain for yourself the intent of the authors?

The Bible?

You asked for a reason, I gave one, you refuse to accept.

Good day sir, enjoy your ignorance.
Posted by reginaphilange
Member since Mar 2014
415 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 6:25 pm to
I would guess that it also has a lot to do with the scoring system for schools. Schools get points when kids graduate on time, among other things. This creates a pretty messed up system where those whose jobs depend on this score act a bit shady about grades.

When I was teaching, we were often encouraged to check and recheck to make sure there was nothing we could do to pass a kid. Not to mention, no matter what a student actually made in the first 3-9 weeks, we rounded their report card grade up to a 60. Yes, even if it was a ZERO. Hypothetically, a student could make 0, 0, 0 and then make an 88 in the 4th quarter to pass.
Posted by ArkLaTexTiger
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
2466 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 6:34 pm to
I have posted this a few time regarding grade inflation in junior colleges, colleges and universities... LINK
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 6:45 pm to
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There was a certain teacher at you and I's alma mater that gave bonus points for putting glitter on the cover, bro.


Wow. In a thread about education no less.
Posted by Mcity14
GA
Member since Jun 2014
29 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 6:47 pm to
It kind of seems that you are enjoying putting your sister in her place, and that is ok ( I can relate)!
Posted by jose canseco
Houston via Houma via BR via NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
5667 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 6:56 pm to
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Never not made an A in a class.


If only there was an easier way to state this...damn grade inflation
Posted by islandtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
1787 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 7:01 pm to
My problem is that the staff I have hired out of college (including LSU) still can't write!
Posted by Libertariantiger
Member since Nov 2012
981 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 7:21 pm to
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I noticed in my freshman English class in 1998 that about 95% of the rest of the students couldn't write worth a damn. Not to brag but I was easily the smartest person in that class.


That's some nice sentence structure! By the way, you know how I know you tell lies?
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
13365 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 7:26 pm to
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No. actually, since we are talking about "cheaters" we are discussing a subset of the overall sample space. the overall sample space is the student body. Cheaters is our subset of that space.


take that theoretical statistics bullshite somewhere else
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36389 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 7:30 pm to
This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 7:31 pm
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