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re: The biggest problem in schools that no one is talking about

Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:44 pm to
That's just it. If I need to come to class to learn, I will come to class.

I am the type who won't need to study as hard if I attend classes where the teacher actually teaches.

Unfortunately a lot of the gen-ed courses in college were wastes of time in the actual classroom. There were quite a few I just stopped showing up to after week 1 and still made an A. There were also a lot that I couldn't miss even one class without being lost -- regardless of the teacher's attendance rules.
Posted by prince of fools
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
1130 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:45 pm to
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Talked to a professor at LSU about it and he said the average student coming in today has no idea how to write at the level of a high school freshman.


I'm calling bullshite on this one.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:46 pm to
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There will always be ways to cheat. And the students will find them quickly. Might as well focus on actually teaching instead of how to prevent people from cheating.


I dont worry about cheaters. I catch at least a few students every semester under the rules of plagiarism.

these kids are actually too dumb to cheat effectively.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26560 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:46 pm to
No my SO, the teacher, is in TFA (Teach for America)
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13257 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:46 pm to
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to compare a method of transcription that was utilized for speed and aesthetic "beauty" to a fundamental mathematical theorem is fricking absurd.

The ability to read various forms of the English language is fundamental to an education.
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:47 pm to
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too dumb to cheat effectively
Oh you're one of those teachers.

Way to be a leader, bro.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81194 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:47 pm to
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I'm calling bullshite on this one.



I don't find it even the least bit shocking.
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
8185 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:48 pm to
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Some kids just aren't good test takers


I have found standardized test scores to be a pretty accurate indication of intelligence. No one intelligent I know did poorly on a standardized test. Being nervous might cost a point or two but not 10 on the ACT. When I hear people say "I am just not a good test take" I actually hear "I am just not as smart as I thought I was or I want you to think I am."
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:49 pm to
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What is the purpose of learning cursive?

Really, give me one good reason to learn it, and I'll agree with you.


One day you may wish to read the US Constitution or Bill of Rights.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:49 pm to
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too dumb to cheat effectively

Oh you're one of those teachers.



Which one would that be?
Posted by prince of fools
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
1130 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:50 pm to
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I have found standardized test scores to be a pretty accurate indication of intelligence. No one intelligent I know did poorly on a standardized test. Being nervous might cost a point or two but not 10 on the ACT. When I hear people say "I am just not a good test take" I actually hear "I am just not as smart as I thought I was or I want you to think I am."



Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
8185 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:50 pm to
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jeez. I made an 18 in seventh grade and I guessed on most of the crap.


Exact same for me. Uncanny. I even got bored and did not read the entire passages for the reading section. I subsequently got a 32 when I took it for real in high school without any kind of prep course. The only people that beat were people I already knew were smarter than me.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:50 pm to
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The biggest problem in schools that no one is talking about
Grade inflation


Plenty people are talking about it. One of the outcomes of those discussions is..... COMMON CORE (gasp)
Posted by MLSter
Member since Feb 2013
3968 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:51 pm to
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There will always be ways to cheat. And the students will find them quickly. Might as well focus on actually teaching instead of how to prevent people from cheating. If you're a good teacher, students will want to learn.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29377 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:55 pm to
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quote:
he has brought enough box tops to get bonus points, a canned food drive to drop the lowest test score

Da fuq is this shite?

There was a certain teacher at you and I's alma mater that gave bonus points for putting glitter on the cover, bro.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58671 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:55 pm to
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I'm calling bullshite on this one


Really? A lot of school systems put a lot less effort into teaching effective writing these days. Let's not even go into teaching the proper use of grammar.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18053 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:55 pm to
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Plenty people are talking about it. One of the outcomes of those discussions is..... COMMON CORE (gasp)



Of which I am a fan of.

50 years ago we were teaching Greek and Latin in high schools. Now we teach remedial English in college.
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Member since Sep 2011
25582 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:57 pm to
The douchebag that automatically assumes all their students are "below" him/her.

Perfect example of someone not suited to be a leader.
This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 3:58 pm
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:04 pm to
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The douchebag that automatically assumes all their students are "below" him/her.


because I find their cheating is pathetically simple?

Sure....let's take one from the fall semester. They needed a calculator and were told no phones. This girl tells me her phone IS her calculator!

I say no problem, borrow mine. To which she claims to only know how to use the one on her phone...so I offer to actually do the calculations for her.

She left all the math problems blank.
Posted by jac1280
Member since Dec 2007
5380 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:31 pm to
I teach Advanced Math: Pre-Calculus at a pretty good high school outside of BR. Well, our third quarter exams start Friday and there is a lot of Trigonometry on it, including a section where I am asking the students to find the exact value of angles and another section where I am asking the students to evaluate inverse trigonometric functions. Well, calculators can do this crap for them so I am not allowing calculators at all for those two sections. I told them they are more than welcome to draw a unit circle on their scratch paper once the exam starts and they could use that for the two sections. I have gotten emails from about 10 parents complaining that it's not fair of me to not let them use calculators for those two sections. Lol, oh well I guess I am an a-hole douchebag teacher who won't let them use a calculator as a crutch.
This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 4:32 pm
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