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re: The biggest problem in schools that no one is talking about

Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:15 pm to
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

quote: This is ignorant, and you sound very mad. How is that ignorant? and I forgot to say im still in school, but I am mad at the system


What makes engineers special, but accountants not?

There are other jobs that require knowledge (proven by certifications) before you can just jump in and start working.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72063 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:15 pm to
Scruffy loves that article. Lucy is a perfect image of my fricked up generation.
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18146 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:18 pm to
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who gives a frick about cursive?

Seriously?



The only time i ever use cursive is when im writing in a card for my wife

it doesnt take as long as print to write
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13257 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:20 pm to
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Cursive is dead.



Good. Let's make more Jeantels.
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18146 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:21 pm to
God.

i miss that trial

that was some of my favorite times on the OT



ETA: SIR!
This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 3:22 pm
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:22 pm to
Let's recent back to the 18th century when people gave a shite about how letters looked. Calligraphy is fine and all, but give me a fricking printed note please.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81194 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:23 pm to
Problem is that even if you CAN read cursive, people just scribble and expect you to know what it says. Like I said, I can read proper cursive.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32445 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:26 pm to
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Bluefin


What is the purpose of learning cursive?

Really, give me one good reason to learn it, and I'll agree with you.

Outside of signing my name, I've only used cursive once since elementary school. That was to write this paragraph before I could take the GRE.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:28 pm to
I grade students to the expected level of the class they are taking.

I offer no extra credit. I take no points off for attendance. If you're in college, it's your choice to show up or not.

The emails I get from parents about their "snowflake" needing extra credit are hilarious....the lies the kids make up are even funnier.

You earn an F, you get one. You earn an A, you get one. If some moron in the class is dumb enough to ask for a curve, I give them a bell curve!
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26560 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:28 pm to
So I realize I'm late to the party, but a quick story from my SO yesterday (she's in TFA) that I couldn't believe:

Kid in her class has already failed the grade once and is repeating it. He never shows up, doesn't take tests or complete assignments, etc. All around worthless kid. My SO and another teacher both failed him, obviously, and the mom called and bitched at the principal.

The principal told both of them they had to pass him, which they both refused to do. So the principal manually went into the grade book and gave the kid a D so he would pass.

And we wonder why kids are lazy and stupid (over-exaggeration, not all kids are those things, but you get my point).
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:31 pm to
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ETA: SIR!


One of my favorite threads ever.]

Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13257 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:34 pm to
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What is the purpose of learning cursive?

You answered your own question with this:

quote:

I've only used cursive once since elementary school. That was to write this paragraph before I could take the GRE.

Would you have liked to forfeit the GRE, simply because you couldn't write in cursive?

You don't have to employ a skill all the time in order for it to be valuable. I hope I never come into a situation where I have to actually use the Pythagorean Theorem, but that doesn't mean I don't see the value in learning it.
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18146 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:37 pm to
damnit

i just started laughing aloud


i think that week or two was the only time i was ever in the top 10 for most posts on the OT


Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:37 pm to
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I hope I never come into a situation where I have to actually use the Pythagorean Theorem, but that doesn't mean I don't see the value in learning it.



to compare a method of transcription that was utilized for speed and aesthetic "beauty" to a fundamental mathematical theorem is fricking absurd.

quote:

Would you have liked to forfeit the GRE, simply because you couldn't write in cursive?


I dont remember writing the GRE in cursive. I tend to use a print/cursive hybrid.

This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 3:38 pm
Posted by MLSter
Member since Feb 2013
3968 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

What makes engineers special, but accountants not?


I would hope a guy building and planning a Skyscraper, bridge, or plant has learned a couple things in school

Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81194 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:39 pm to
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I offer no extra credit. I take no points off for attendance. If you're in college, it's your choice to show up or not.



Beyond a class that requires participation/discussion like Critical Theory or something, I don't understand strict attendance rules. If I know I need to come to class to learn (like in a foreign language), I'll come. If I can make an A without coming, why do I deserve a B because you decide you want me in class that I don't need to attend and punish me for it?

It was fine my first couple years of college, but they really got weird as time moved on.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32445 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:39 pm to
There are millions of people who don't take the GRE (the GMAT doesn't require this step, I took both). I don't think they really even checked to ensure that I wrote it correctly or anything. Basically I could have faked writing in cursive if I needed to
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81194 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:40 pm to
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He never shows up, doesn't take tests or complete assignments, etc


I don't know what TFA is. Is this a kid that drives? I ask because doesn't attendance fall on parents?
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:41 pm to
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. If I can make an A without coming, why do I deserve a B because you decide you want me in class that I don't need to attend and punish me for it?



Well, my tests are based on book and lecture. And no, i dont give copies of my lectures out like fricking study guides for children.
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Member since Sep 2011
25582 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:43 pm to
There will always be ways to cheat. And the students will find them quickly. Might as well focus on actually teaching instead of how to prevent people from cheating.

If you're a good teacher, students will want to learn.
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