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Why was the Dreamcast not successful?
Posted on 2/21/15 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 2/21/15 at 8:13 pm
It was so far ahead of it's time I don't see how it wasn't successful. I remember playing Soulcalibur for the first time and didn't think graphics could get any better. Basically I don't know how it didn't put Sega back on the map, considering it came out first in the 6th generation and had pretty healthy third party support. It just seems like that would be hard to mess up, I was young at the time and don't recall the landscape of the console market.
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Posted on 2/21/15 at 8:15 pm to GalvoAg
Because Sega's last three console ventures were 32x, Sega CD, and Saturn. They all sucked arse. It was too risky even for Sega fanboys. And the PS2 looked like a sure thing.
Posted on 2/21/15 at 8:23 pm to GalvoAg
Think it was too expensive and they priced there selves out of their target demographic.
I may be not remembering correctly. I got a pc around 13 and gave up consoles for over a decade. Everyone had a pc and a n64. No room in the budget for much else.
I may be not remembering correctly. I got a pc around 13 and gave up consoles for over a decade. Everyone had a pc and a n64. No room in the budget for much else.
This post was edited on 2/21/15 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 2/21/15 at 8:23 pm to genro
Saturn wasn't that bad, but yeah the 32x and CD were complete failures (also the CD was an add on, those never do good).
Posted on 2/21/15 at 8:27 pm to jefforize
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Think it was too expensive and they priced there selves out of their target demographic.
I could see that, my mom got me one but I remember basically nobody having it. Also Sega was struggling and the writing was probably on the wall, with the PS2 being a sure thing and a new player entering the market there just wasn't a place for them.
This post was edited on 2/21/15 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 2/21/15 at 8:40 pm to GalvoAg
Interesting topic so I dug a little further.
It honestly got off to a fast start. It was only $199. I confused it and the saturn. (sega lost their arse with the saturn. )
Then every other competitor entered the 6th gen market and EA wouldn't publish for dreamcast.
Sega was having problems as a company, got new leadership, and they almost instantly said frick it and discontinued it to focus on publishing
Fun fact, dreamcast was the first console with a modem.
It honestly got off to a fast start. It was only $199. I confused it and the saturn. (sega lost their arse with the saturn. )
Then every other competitor entered the 6th gen market and EA wouldn't publish for dreamcast.
Sega was having problems as a company, got new leadership, and they almost instantly said frick it and discontinued it to focus on publishing
Fun fact, dreamcast was the first console with a modem.
This post was edited on 2/21/15 at 8:42 pm
Posted on 2/21/15 at 8:44 pm to GalvoAg
The Dreamcast is what the N64 should've been. Looking back the N64 was a disappointment. So many games had camera/graphical issues. The controller was defective. Third party development was shite. No online support. And the sheer number of good games on the system is a joke, compared to other systems. N64 was revolutionary but it was rushed to market. Dreamcast to me perfected it, it was the last great classic console.
This post was edited on 2/21/15 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 2/21/15 at 8:46 pm to GalvoAg
A large part of it was that they launched the Dreamcast much earlier than the other consoles for that generation and didn't build enough support before the newer, shinier consoles debuted. Which was at least partially due to poor performance outside of the Japanese market in the previous generations, pretty much since the Mega Drive / Genesis.
Sega was also still split between their arcade division, their home console division, and their software division (I'm not sure if they had a separate handheld division as well at that time.. they had tried to make a portable Genesis called the Nomad which released in the same year as the Saturn, but it was a commercial failure). They couldn't maintain losses in multiple areas, and they saw Microsoft and Sony as giant competitors that they couldn't outlast in the console market.
Sega was also still split between their arcade division, their home console division, and their software division (I'm not sure if they had a separate handheld division as well at that time.. they had tried to make a portable Genesis called the Nomad which released in the same year as the Saturn, but it was a commercial failure). They couldn't maintain losses in multiple areas, and they saw Microsoft and Sony as giant competitors that they couldn't outlast in the console market.
Posted on 2/21/15 at 8:49 pm to jefforize
quote:Nein. SNES and Genesis X-band says hi.
Fun fact, dreamcast was the first console with a modem.
Posted on 2/21/15 at 8:51 pm to CrazyTigerFan
Built-in*
Posted on 2/21/15 at 8:53 pm to CrazyTigerFan
The Famicom had a modem. That's the NES in Japan. Nintendo always wins
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This post was edited on 2/21/15 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 2/21/15 at 9:00 pm to GalvoAg
I have read a lot about why the dreamcast failed and I think the biggest reason was cost.
The system didn't use DVDs and PS2 did. And sony was a big player in the development of DVDs so they had an inside track to better technology. Sega was buying most of the parts for the dreamcast while sony was manufacturing and getting a lot of theirs for cheaper so when it came to a price war the dreamcast just got obliterated.
Dreamcast was actually an insanely easy console to develop for. Popularity turned devs away, not the console itself.
The system didn't use DVDs and PS2 did. And sony was a big player in the development of DVDs so they had an inside track to better technology. Sega was buying most of the parts for the dreamcast while sony was manufacturing and getting a lot of theirs for cheaper so when it came to a price war the dreamcast just got obliterated.
Dreamcast was actually an insanely easy console to develop for. Popularity turned devs away, not the console itself.
Posted on 2/21/15 at 9:00 pm to genro
But they didn't make the VMU
I sort of miss memory cards...
I sort of miss memory cards...
Posted on 2/21/15 at 9:02 pm to genro
Apparently the best dreamcast games sell for a lot.
Shenmue, crazy taxi, Marvel vs Capcom , sonic.
Stout would hit a goldmine if he found a cache of dreamcast games. Damn
Seems the general consensus is that the dreamcast itself was a great system, just faced a lot of competition. Sony destroyed sega in NA due to the saturn disaster in the prior generation . Saturn originally cost $399
Also pc gaming was blowing up, after windows 95 was in every house in the mid to late 90s.
Shenmue, crazy taxi, Marvel vs Capcom , sonic.
Stout would hit a goldmine if he found a cache of dreamcast games. Damn
Seems the general consensus is that the dreamcast itself was a great system, just faced a lot of competition. Sony destroyed sega in NA due to the saturn disaster in the prior generation . Saturn originally cost $399
Also pc gaming was blowing up, after windows 95 was in every house in the mid to late 90s.
This post was edited on 2/21/15 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 2/21/15 at 9:04 pm to GalvoAg
I actually had a PC hook-up for my PS1 memcard. Could just dump savefiles on my Gateway 2000 and retrieve them when needed. Everyone else just bought a fricking hundred of them. I thought I was so nifty. 
Posted on 2/21/15 at 9:11 pm to jefforize
DP
This post was edited on 2/21/15 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 2/21/15 at 9:12 pm to jefforize
Oh yeah I still have my system and about 15 games. A lot of the 2k stuff but I have House of the Dead 2, Soulcalibur, Vurta Fighter 3 and Powerstone (want Powerstone 2 but it's crazy priced). I would get MVC2 but they want way to much for the DC version, the Dreamcast really was the fighting game system.
Dreamcast and GameCube are two of my favorite systems.
Dreamcast and GameCube are two of my favorite systems.
This post was edited on 2/21/15 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 2/21/15 at 9:12 pm to GalvoAg
I still have a sega genesis and a dream cast in my closet. No idea if they still work
Posted on 2/21/15 at 9:14 pm to GalvoAg
Soul caliber must of been life changing around 2000 on a dreamcast
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