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re: Good article on how soccer is more American than american football
Posted on 1/28/15 at 6:21 am to thesoccerfanjax
Posted on 1/28/15 at 6:21 am to thesoccerfanjax
So basically 4 goals in usually what 90 minutes. That's 22 minutes every goal, that won't entice American viewership. Hockey changed it's dynamic after the lockout and it's a strong and popular sport. You have to have the big offense.
Americans are only going to be entertained by goals and goal keeping. That should the focus.
Americans are only going to be entertained by goals and goal keeping. That should the focus.
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 6:26 am to WalkingTurtles
Goals not being scored every few minutes and watering down a match is exactly why soccer has become my favorite sport and I've lost interest in cfb and the nfl for the most part. Scoring isn't exactly special when it's constantly happening.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 6:32 am to St Augustine
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Goals not being scored every few minutes and watering down a match is exactly why soccer has become my favorite sport and I've lost interest in cfb and the nfl for the most part. Scoring isn't exactly special when it's constantly happening.
Exactly. The difficulty of scoring a goal makes the drama much more intense when one occurs.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 7:20 am to glassman
Right. Goals mean something. Half the people who make this argument probably don't like basketball either.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:18 am to WalkingTurtles
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So basically 4 goals in usually what 90 minutes. That's 22 minutes every goal, that won't entice American viewership. Hockey changed it's dynamic after the lockout and it's a strong and popular sport. You have to have the big offense.
Americans are only going to be entertained by goals and goal keeping. That should the focus.
So a 1-0 soccer game is boring but a 1-0 pitcher's duel in baseball is awesome and applauded.
I love the contradiction in this argument on scoring
Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:54 am to gallagherkck
The analogy is to football, not baseball. Quit trying to change the topic.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:31 am to Horsemeat
Read the statement I quoted. It doesn't mention football. Rather, it was a general statement about soccer not having enough scoring and that it "won't entice American viewership." Heck, it evens delves into hockey.
So don't tell me this is only about football.
So don't tell me this is only about football.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:46 am to gallagherkck
If people only cared about scoring then basketball would be the unanimous number one sport in the US. What people want is to know when something good or bad happens. Something worth cheering about. That's pretty obvious to most watchers of football in the US. Its not obvious to most when it comes to soccer.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:57 am to thesoccerfanjax
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If people only cared about scoring then basketball would be the unanimous number one sport in the US.
The lack of scoring and physical nature of CBB is killing it.
The NBA is at its most popular level since Jordan retired. People love today's NBA for the same reason people enjoy good soccer. The free flowing nature of the sports are just so appealing. It is why I felt like my transition from being a big NBA fan to an Arsenal fan was an easy transition.
I will never understand why soccer fans have to get so defensive. The sport is growing rapidly here, so let's just enjoy that. Let the idiotic MSB posters make their immature gay jokes.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:57 am to Y.A. Tittle
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I don't at all. I do, however, hate the chip-on-the-shoulder complex surrounding so many soccer aficionados, such as with the dude here who was possessed to write such an asinine piece.
Which is fair, though you have to admit plenty of Merican football fans hate soccer because they're fricking backwoods morons. Some don't like the pace, which is fine. Some just don't like it, like I don't like hockey.
But plenty don't like it because they feel like they shouldn't like it, which is dumb. It's a fun game that allows me to drink beer and avoid gameday at 10AM prior to the slate of CFB games. Which is pretty solid.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:01 am to Pettifogger
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It's a fun game that allows me to drink beer and avoid gameday at 10AM prior to the slate of CFB games. Which is pretty solid.
Started doing that this season and I couldn't be happier. Great excuse to make a Bloody Mary and start drinking early.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:35 am to MLSter
Yes it is a much simpler game which is why it is perfect for my 4 year old daughter
Posted on 1/28/15 at 2:24 pm to monz29
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Yes it is a much simpler game which is why it is perfect for my 4 year old daughter
I'm sorry your daughter is slow.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 2:26 pm to gallagherkck
quote:Classy.
I'm sorry your daughter is slow.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 2:29 pm to boom roasted
I said I'm sorry?
Posted on 1/28/15 at 2:52 pm to gallagherkck
It's not the scoring that's the problem. Like people said, baseball(which I personally find boring) is low scoring and football isn't that much higher scoring, they just count more points. It's the amount of non-resetting accomplishments. In baseball, there are base hits and outs. Miniature victories that people watched with interest. Football, first downs. They all are watched with an observable favorable or unfavorable outcome that overtime dictate the greater contest. Football and baseball fans don't only celebrate scores. Soccer fans more or less do. Scores or prevented scoring attempts.
Sports interest and appeal is in a lot of ways things that parallel war. Winning contested battles to put yourself in better position to win the war. Soccer doesn't really have that element. Soccer, imo, has the least parallel to war.
Sports interest and appeal is in a lot of ways things that parallel war. Winning contested battles to put yourself in better position to win the war. Soccer doesn't really have that element. Soccer, imo, has the least parallel to war.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 3:29 pm to TheSexecutioner
I actually prefer soccer to baseball's low scoring affairs (in most cases) because soccer has continuous action. I love a pitcher's duel and I'm definitely a baseball fan, but I really like putting everything away and watching a soccer match.
I think it takes some practice to notice everything that is happening, but at the same time, as a relatively new soccer spectator (I played for a number of years as a kid), the sheer athleticism and timing and flow is pretty unreal when watching good teams and players.
I think it takes some practice to notice everything that is happening, but at the same time, as a relatively new soccer spectator (I played for a number of years as a kid), the sheer athleticism and timing and flow is pretty unreal when watching good teams and players.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 4:58 pm to Pettifogger
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I actually prefer soccer to baseball's low scoring affairs (in most cases) because soccer has continuous action.
I don't hate soccer. I respect the hell out of their athleticism and endurance. And good soccer can be fun to watch. But I just don't understand when people talk about "continuous action" in soccer. A bunch of people running around is continuous movement. I don't watch people run marathons because it's just people running.
After watching the World Cup in Brasil, with a bunch of Brasilians, I realized one main reason why soccer hasn't been as popular in the US. In my opinion, it's because we aren't conditioned to believe that every shot in the direction of the end line is going to be a goal.
I watch more people wait with baited breath on a kick that was obviously going 10 feet high and 20 feet wide. It's akin to a long fly-out in baseball, Americans are conditioned to be excited by that.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 5:06 pm to Wayne Campbell
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I don't hate soccer. I respect the hell out of their athleticism and endurance. And good soccer can be fun to watch. But I just don't understand when people talk about "continuous action" in soccer. A bunch of people running around is continuous movement. I don't watch people run marathons because it's just people running.
Depends on what you're looking for and the quality of the play I think.
To me, I'd prefer to watch slide tackles and awesome passes and headers and contests for the ball and missed shots over walks and walking to the plate and jogging to first and jogging to a fly ball, etc.
I don't want to detract from baseball, which I watch. But I tune in and out of baseball games more than good soccer games. That's not always the case, but I'm specifically talking about dull baseball vs. dull soccer.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 6:13 pm to TheSexecutioner
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Football and baseball fans don't only celebrate scores. Soccer fans more or less do. Scores or prevented scoring attempts.
This is completely untrue. Soccer fans celebrate a great through ball, a clever flick, a hard nosed tackle, etc. The difference is the action doesn't stop so everyone can talk about what just happened (although they do for a second). The game goes on.
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