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Why do you think Miles and his staff has trouble developing QBs?

Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:40 am
Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:40 am
This position has normally been a weak link for years during Miles' tenure.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:42 am to
Mett developed nicely

Jennings is still pretty freaking young, so come back to me if Jennings is starting next year and still looks the same

You only really have JJ/Lee to make this case

Posted by PurpleAndGold86
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:43 am to
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Why do you think Miles and his staff win so many games?
Posted by lsu2006
BR
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:44 am to
I'm not ready to throw in the towel on Jennings or Harris, but if you are, go right ahead friend.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:44 am to
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Jennings is still pretty freaking young, so come back to me if Jennings is starting next year and still looks the same

You only really have JJ/Lee to make this case


Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:45 am to
Because it is the hardest thing to do. That's why there aren't very many good quarterbacks. Everyone thought Sumlin was great at it after one game, now we all know Kenneth Hill sucks. Why does Sumlin suck at developing quarterbacks? Because its hard.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:45 am to
75/25 run to pass ratio will not do much to help a qb gain confidence.
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:46 am to
It's more that they have done a shitty job recruiting. Sure, JJ, Lee, Rettig, etc. have been highly rated, but that's highly rated by recruiting services. They don't know WTF they're talking about. QBs are especially hard to rate, too.

Until we got Harris, Lee and JJ were the only QBs with talent. However, one was a pussy and the other was a moron. That was really just bad breaks.

AJ is developing just fine. He is not very talented - only average. If we're forced to use AJ next year, and I predict we will for the first half of the season, he'll be much improved over this year.
Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:46 am to
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Mett developed nicely


People say this but he only had one productive year while at LSU and he was here for three years I believe. I think one year he sat on the bench, his second year was shitty, and he blossomed his senior year.
This post was edited on 10/28/14 at 10:48 am
Posted by PacWilly
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:46 am to
I think the current staff is well suited to develop QBs and has already demonstrated this with Mett and Jennings.
Posted by Houston Texas Tiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:46 am to
Jamarcus and Mett?
Lets not bail on the qbs we have in our system. Lets not forget Flynn and Mauck were seniors and had been in the system a long time. Give it time. I have always maintained that it is more to do with the line than with the QB's. You either recruit the larger smash mouth style run blockers or you do the more agile smaller pass blockers. Our qb's have very little time to look around and assess the field. This is why most of college football teams try to focus their offense heavy one way or another. When you become great is when you luck into a special talent at QB that excels at both. Remember Peyton Manning and Eli didn't win a national championship. Neither did Brees or any other elite qb for that matter. Fans get too caught up in why isn't our the best. These kids were playing high school not long ago, give it time.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:47 am to
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People say this but he only had one productive year while at LSU and he was here for three years I believe.


what are people talking about when they mean "develop" QBs?

because Mett certainly "developed" from 2012 to 2013
Posted by euquol
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:48 am to
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You only really have JJ/Lee to make this case


This is actually true because all other QBs under Miles have been at least serviceable. The JJ/Lee situation I believe was more Miles being a bit stubborn in his initial assessment of the more talented QB 3 years prior to 2011.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:48 am to
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People say this but he only had one productive year while at LSU and he was here for three years I believe. I think one year he sat on the bench, his second year was shitty, and he blossomed his senior year.


Conveniently leaving out he "blossomed" into the most prolific quarterback in school history. That's pretty significant that they took a guy who was "shitty" and made him the best in school history, no?
Posted by lsu2006
BR
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39979 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:49 am to
You just effectively argued against your initial point. Nice.
Posted by bilbo72
Watson, La.
Member since Nov 2013
135 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:50 am to
People say this because in his 2nd year at LSU he showed improvement over the course of the season (see 2012 Alabama game) and in his 3rd and final year here he put it all together. 1 productive year in 3 years still means he developed.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70900 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:51 am to
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However, one was a pussy and the other was a moron


I'll never understand how this fan base eats their own. Go frick yourself dude.
Posted by damnstrongfan
St. George, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2009
2080 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:51 am to
I think the heart of the problem is the evaluation process while these kids are still in high school. Think of all the successful college quarterbacks who were basically unknown in high school who turned out to be great college QB's.
Posted by LesTiger
Hammond
Member since Apr 2007
553 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:51 am to
Cause they only practice the toss dive at practice. The other pass plays you see during the games are made up on a dry erase board while being called.
Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
Hammond
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:52 am to
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Conveniently leaving out he "blossomed" into the most prolific quarterback in school history. That's pretty significant that they took a guy who was "shitty" and made him the best in school history, no?


It took three years to get him there though So, are you satisfied to have shitty QB play every 3 years or so and wait until the QB is a senior for him to have a decent season?
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