re: Ever been to a place with menus with no prices?

I don't even let em put the bill down. I just hold up the card and don't even look at the waiter. They take it and prolly think Im a complete a-hole til they see the tip.

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I'd like to make my own food and beverage choices, thanks.

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Don't be so offended I was just saying I'd find it sexy for him to do. He'd never choose my meal for me.. and rarely chooses drinks. Generally, he'll tell me what he's drinking and I'll want the same anyway (when it's wine).

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My tipping percentage will definitely be thinner when a server makes the mistaken assumption that I'm not the host of a business luncheon simply because I'm female (or short, LOL). Alpha male body language and/or gender aren't the best indicator of who's paying the tab. Most servers I encounter have moved beyond the "hand the dude the check" attitude, fortunately.

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Again, try not to be so offended as it's probably just what the server assumes.. and the server is probably a kid just trying to do what they think is the right thing.

I'm not talking about alpha male attitude. I'm talking about the way someone talks to you when they are the one hosting/paying. It's VERY clear who is the head of a group by the way they don't sit back and say nothing to you.. they always talk to you directly and it's obvious they planned/are paying for the meal.

If you want the bill handed to you without acting like the person in charge, take the server aside and ask for the check.

You think it sounds simple, but I can't tell you how many times I've seen an angry black woman flip and call everyone racist because the check/her change was set on the table instead of her hands. Some servers feel they need to hand it directly to someone, and they assume the man. It's not a large enough deal to be feminazi over.. they're probably 18 and have no idea

I knew it would come off as a jab when it wasn't meant to be. It's a term I prefer to use when someone is upset over something gender-based. It's not meant to say anything about you as a person.

I just personally think there are things not worth being upset over.. and who the check is handed to is one. We are all humans.. nobody is reading anyone's mind. Cutting someone's tip who otherwise gave you great service because they handed the bill to the wrong person kinda erases everything good they did and seems really cut-throat.

Generally, the man pays. Probably 95% of people I wait on.. the man pays. Generalizations exist because of what generally happens.

Without laying the check on the middle of the table in "neutral zone", how else would they go about making it equal for a couple at an upscale place? Should they ask who is paying? (which would be weird). Should they automatically hand it to the woman? (but then wouldn't that still be an assumption with no backing?)

I don't think Joel Robuchon had prices on the menu when I went there.

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In Vegas?

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yeah mgm grand

oh and check goes to oldest male at the table

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oh and check goes to oldest male at the table

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I follow this at times too. It's all really circumstantial.

If the oldest male at the table is grandpappy with his breathing machine, he's likely not the one paying

I can tell when 40-year-old son is taking 80-year-old dad and all the kids and grandkids to dinner. But as I said before, the one paying (40-year-old dad) tends to talk to me directly a lot and make it clear he's the one paying.

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You're bitter.

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About something huh?

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If you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it.

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Exactly.