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inspired by the dog threads on the OT
Posted on 10/22/12 at 10:06 am
Posted on 10/22/12 at 10:06 am
man, i'm probably going to get blasted for this, and that's why i posted it on the OB instead of the OT..
what did dogs do before they started becoming pets and used for work, hunting, etc? were they just roaming around like wild animals until they were domesticated?? did breeds like retreivers, boxers, collies, pits, shepards, etc just live in the wilderness and in packs??
i understand people are more than likely going to flame this thread, but it's a serious question.. were all dogs wild before they started living with and around humans?
what did dogs do before they started becoming pets and used for work, hunting, etc? were they just roaming around like wild animals until they were domesticated?? did breeds like retreivers, boxers, collies, pits, shepards, etc just live in the wilderness and in packs??
i understand people are more than likely going to flame this thread, but it's a serious question.. were all dogs wild before they started living with and around humans?
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Posted on 10/22/12 at 10:10 am to Mr. Hangover
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i understand people are more than likely going to flame this thread, but it's a serious question.. were all dogs wild before they started living with and around humans?
At some point yes, but there have been domesticated dogs with humans for thousands of years...
Posted on 10/22/12 at 10:11 am to Mr. Hangover
Posted on 10/22/12 at 10:12 am to Mr. Hangover
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. were all dogs wild before they started living with and around humans
Yes. 6000 thousand years of breeding got different looking critters now.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 10:14 am to Nodust
Dogs are domesticated from wolves.
Coyotes are different species. Not sure if they can mix
Coyotes are different species. Not sure if they can mix
Posted on 10/22/12 at 10:15 am to Mr. Hangover
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were all dogs wild before they started living with and around humans?
No. All dogs can be traced back to wolves. Man started tinkering with selective breeding aboout 6,000 years ago. The domestication of wolves is one of the watershed moments of modern man.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 10:20 am to Mr. Hangover
evolution...
We were all once wild animals too....remember we were all monkeys and apes at one time
We were all once wild animals too....remember we were all monkeys and apes at one time
This post was edited on 10/22/12 at 10:21 am
Posted on 10/22/12 at 10:23 am to Nodust
With the exception of 2 or 3 breeds all modern dogs are descendents of grey wolves. So yes they were roaming around in packs. There never were packs of boxer, lab etc. From the english mastiff to the tea cup chihuahua all were descendants of the same species, Canis lupus. Best example of selective breeding at work.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 10:32 am to smoked hog
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With the exception of 2 or 3 breeds all modern dogs are descendents of grey wolves. So yes they were roaming around in packs. There never were packs of boxer, lab etc. From the english mastiff to the tea cup chihuahua all were descendants of the same species, Canis lupus. Best example of selective breeding at work.
This.
And there is a lot of evidence that they largely domesticated themselves by hanging around human camps for thousands of years until they became tame enough to be useful and essentially a different species. It wasn't a case of man catching some wolf pups and breeding them.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 10:38 am to smoked hog
thanks for all the input.. i know it was kind of a stupid question, but my little brother asked me and i really didn't know what to say... luckily, i know a guy who knows a little something about it so i gave him a call (pawn stars reference) 
Posted on 10/22/12 at 10:43 am to smoked hog
quote:What are those?
With the exception of 2 or 3 breeds
Posted on 10/22/12 at 11:04 am to Teague
ordered... thanks teague.. i'm glad i'm not the only one who was interested in this... i'm also surprised that nobody asked me if i was high
Posted on 10/22/12 at 11:10 am to Mr. Hangover
quote:The following made me question you, but high was not the affliction that came to mind
i'm also surprised that nobody asked me if i was high
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did breeds like retreivers, boxers, collies, pits, shepards, etc just live in the wilderness and in packs??
Posted on 10/22/12 at 11:11 am to AlxTgr
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What are those?
I'll have to look it up later, I have it in a book at home but can't be positive until I get home.
I'm wanting to say the Egyptian Basenji is one of them but like I said I'll have to double check later.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 11:14 am to smoked hog
quote:Only one that came to mind. There is something different about their background. Can't recall it.
Basenji
Posted on 10/22/12 at 11:24 am to smoked hog
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Egyptian Basenji
It looks like a dingo
Posted on 10/22/12 at 11:36 am to 4X4DEMON
Dingoes are actually feral dogs. Wolf to dog to dingo.
There's a breed or two that are suspected to have their roots in foxes. Can't remember exactly which ones. Fenic foxes specifically.
There's a breed or two that are suspected to have their roots in foxes. Can't remember exactly which ones. Fenic foxes specifically.
This post was edited on 10/22/12 at 11:42 am
Posted on 10/22/12 at 11:41 am to wickowick
dogs have been domesticated since some caveman threw a charred mastadon bone to a starving mutt....
plenty of yall know where that quote comes from.. but.....
plenty of yall know where that quote comes from.. but.....
Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:10 pm to Teague
Domestication shows up in fossil records often starting around 14,000 years ago, with spotty signs of domestication beginning to appear around 33,000 years ago. DNA markers seem to indicate dogs genetically diverged from wolves as far back as 100,000 years ago, possibly due to early domestication attempts.
The silver fox experiment in Russia showed that selective breeding for temperamental traits to humans also has an affect on physical characteristics over time. The friendly foxes began to have a distinct appearance separate from the original breed as a result of selective breeding of characteristics not related to appearance.
And I wouldn't be shocked if corgis had some fox in their genetics just based on facial structure and the independent streak in many of them.
The silver fox experiment in Russia showed that selective breeding for temperamental traits to humans also has an affect on physical characteristics over time. The friendly foxes began to have a distinct appearance separate from the original breed as a result of selective breeding of characteristics not related to appearance.
And I wouldn't be shocked if corgis had some fox in their genetics just based on facial structure and the independent streak in many of them.
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