re: PuttaDaForkDown

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Would you rather that number on the scale go down if your bodyfat % was staying the same??

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I would right now. I'm trying to lose 100 pounds and keep myself motivated, and that's really tough for me to do when I eat right + bust my arse in the gym and don't see results on the scale. That makes me want to give up, not keep going. I know some people may not understand that train of thought, but it's what I have to do to keep myself going forward.

Poopon,I know what you mean. When I started I was doing keto and eating 1200 - 1500 cals a day. I did that for 6+ months with very little cheating and now Im finding i cant eat nearly as much as most BMR calculators recommend. If i eat over 1800 or 1900 a day, im gaining even if i exercise every day. Carbs or no carbs. I dont know why, though. The hard part is that i still have a huge appetite and i tend to stay hungry a lot, even at my current 1700 to 1800 cals a day right now. At 6'2 266 I should be able to eat 2300 and still lose weight, especially since im working out pretty consistently

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understand this way of thinking but would you really want to lose muscle and keep the same amount of fat just to see a number change??

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Someone who hasnt had such a large number to lose probably can't fully relate. It takes lots of time to correct the mental part of your eating and working out habits. Ive been at it for 3 years now and I'm just starting to truly comprehend what it means to live a 'healthly lifestyle'. Everything in balance. I think ive said this to you before, but someone with 100+ pounds to lose has a lot of issues to deal with. The number on the scale and calorie counting is, by and large, the easy issue to deal with. Controlling the nagging 'fat guy' tendencies and thoughts is the hardest. Every single time I eat I want to go back for more, whether im hungry or not. If food is sitting in front of me, I want to eat it, whether im hungry or not. Controlling those impulses is by far the toughest part of truly living a healthy lifestyle for someone who has such a broken relationship with food.

Anyway i got sidetracked. My point was that if he feels like he needs to stop working out for now to keep his eating under control and closing weight, then that is truly the best option

I haven't considered removing the cardio portion of the exercising, no. The 3 times a week full body workout is what I was doing for my weight training, though with cardio on the non lifting days for 30 minutes. With that exercise regiment and eating ~1500 calories per day, I stayed at 275ish pounds for 3 weeks.

Prior to that (around a year ago) I started going to the gym and counting my calories via myfitnesspal, keeping them around 2000 / day. Same workout routine except there were 20 min cardio sessions after weight lifting + 45 minutes to an hour on off days. I did that religiously for 6 months only missing days when the Y was closed for a holiday. I managed in that time frame to go from 300 to 315 pounds.

I don't care how much someone says, "but your turning fat in to muscle" the fact of the matter is I was getting bigger, which is the exact opposite of what I'm trying to accomplish. So when the same trend started happening the 2nd time, I decided it was best for me to focus on the weight loss until I got to a weight I was happy with, at which time I can get back in to the gym regularly and work on finishing my transition.

That's awesome. Congrats! Just keep at it. Forever. This is a permannant change.

I've lost 6 lbs. in 2 days. Thanks stomach virus!

170/148/145

I tried it even on low carb.

Is this bro science or can one actually "wreck their metabolism"? If so, how can it be fixed?

It is bro science..to an extent. 1500 cals isnt little enough cals to screw up the metabolism imo. My roommate is the kind of person that literally has to eat 5000 or 6000 calories per day to put on any weight at all. The bottom line is the human body is not a machine and everyone is different.